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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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What's the deal with the recent activity on the old subreddit? (awful.systems)

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I'm seeing two posts from the mods that are sneerworthy content that aren't meta-posts announcing the de-sunsetting of r/sneerclub. I just wanna know what's up.

FWIW, I will stay here and probably won't participate in the subreddit out of laziness.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I would have thought anyone who regularly posted on the sub in the last 7 years or so would be well aware that there were effectively two active moderators, only one of whom - the founder and head mod /u/completely-ineffable - is still on reddit, and who made the first new post (being “The EA Case for Trump”)

Two further moderators were added shortly before the AI reddit fuckaround which spawned this place, with one of them being David Gerard (who formally spawned this place)

A conclusion I am genuinely surprised to see nobody drawing is obvious: a mod just decided to post something, and turned on comments on for the sake of comments. What’s the deal with trying to figure that out as if it’s some kind of high level management decision?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yo dawg, slow your roll. Yes, that is the easy explanation. I just wanted more information before jumping to any conclusions. Not all of us (read: I) were deeply familiar with the moderator dynamics nor had a reason to be.

Again either way I’ve made my choice to be here, so to me, it doesn’t really matter what’s going on beyond my own curiosity.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Throwing in that comment about Son_of_Sophroniscus was pretty out there! My roll would be pretty damn slow had you just left that out. But instead we’ve got that, people talking about a “weird/bad vibe”, reading tea leaves all over the shop…

But even in just your own case, it seems like the opposite of not jumping to conclusions to throw in references to old mods going alt right that bear absolutely zero relationship to any of the handful of posts on the “resurrected” sub

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Throwing in that comment about Son_of_Sophroniscus was pretty out there!

It seemed relevant to the discussion to look at the moderator list in case there was any information. In this case, the information seemed to be a dead end, which is why I didn't try to speculate beyond a statement of fact.

But instead we’ve got that, people talking about a “weird/bad vibe”, reading tea leaves all over the shop…

People are allowed to comment on the vibe. I think it is completely fair to express frustration at the reopening for the reasons stated in other parts of this thread.

But even in just your own case, it seems like the opposite of not jumping to conclusions to throw in references to old mods going alt right that bear absolutely zero relationship to any of the handful of posts on the “resurrected” sub

I can't believe I have to explain this very ordinary attempt of trying to see what's going on:

the status quo changes (r/sneerclub comes back online)
I look for answers (in this case, I ask here for information, and look around the subreddit for information)
I resist the urge to jump to the easy/obvious answer, and share what little information I had here

Then, as you pointed out in your other comments, it was the obvious answer, which I will happily accept as there is proof.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I just think, and perhaps this is just me, that it is weird, conspiratorial, speech to summarise your research into this question as, paraphrasing, ‘I found out one of the old mods has gone alt right’ and nothing more

It’s also defensive speech to say “people are allowed to comment on the vibe”. I know they’re allowed to comment on the vibe! I think they’re weird for detecting a bad/weird vibe! I think it’s indicative of a conspiratorial framing! There is so little information to go on in these speculations, and literally none of it out of keeping with ordinary goings on at SneerClub, for anyone remotely invested in anything that has ever gone on there

Similarly, I found your speech to frame the question itself conspiratorially, as if the fact that one of the old mods has hints of having gone alt right - despite having nothing to do with any recent posts on the subreddit - is worth mentioning at all, certainly not as the only thing of note that your research turned up

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say: "X mod has gone alt-right! This must be a conspiracy! The moon isn't real!"

I said: "I guess this mod has gone alt-right?"

Seeing and mentioning changes is worth mentioning, even if those changes are unrelated. That's just... basic observation.

Of course, if you want to conspiratorially cast aspersions on everything I'm saying, that's fine. I am going to disengage starting... now.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s more that I think the whole discussion is completely head-ass

Nobody who knows anything about the sub should think it’s remotely worth asking beyond “I guess a mod did that”, it’s literally always been this way