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A community for anarchist. Anarchism is a set of philosophies that promotes a world free of hierarchical systems.

No electioneering, no telling people to or not to vote or who to vote for. Interpretating this rule as forbidding critisism of candidates is certainty an interpretation but in the context of an ANARCHIST space it's a bad interpretation.

No bootlicking & that will include being hyper pedantic about people calling politicians, prosecutors, bureaucrats, etc, cops.

Yes, if you're an obnoxious neo-lib you're going to get banned. If you're not obnoxious & have good faith questions you can stay.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15032962

Alt text: a screenshot of a microblog post with the text "you walking down an alleyway with a gram of weed in your pocket, who would you rather catch you?" Below are two pictures side by side. One of Kamala Harris and the other of Batman.

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[–] Broken_Monitor 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sire she’s not a cop sooooooo

Its still batman, he’s got bigger things to worry about

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

She's not a cop anymore. She was the DA of San Francisco in 2004-2011, and she was the Attorney General of California from 2011-2017. She was responsible for prosecuting people, and lead an effort to police black and poor families harder. She also was directly responsible for transgender inmates having their gender-confirming surgeries withheld. Also remember that time she mocked people chanting "schools not jails"?

[–] Alexstarfire 29 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Which part of that was her being a cop?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The part where she prosecuted poor black parents because their children missed school when they were sick in the hospital?

[–] Alexstarfire 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Cops don't prosecute people. Lawyers do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you have anything of value to contribute to the discussion, or is your sole issue that Kamala Harris has not ever actually served on a police force?

[–] Alexstarfire 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If somehow not serving on a police force makes you a cop then I guess we're all bastards.

And yes, that's really my sole issue. I didn't think it was going to be controversial to point out that she wasn't a cop.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

You do understand that we say "ACAB" because it's catchier than "I dislike the so-called justice system that does nothing but destroy lives for the state, and that includes cops, lawyers, prosecutors, etc.", (IDTSCJSTDNBDLFTSATICLPE) right?

I bet you also say things like "You can't call everyone you don't like a nazi, the nazi party ended decades ago!"

I say this with all the kindness in my heart, please log off and go outside.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IDTSCJSTDNBDLFTSATICLPE is definitely going in the side bar.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Finally, The Left recognizes me for the thought leader I am!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

No war except ~~class war~~ banning weird pedantic liberals!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, prosecutors prosecute. Prosecutors are not literally cops (duh), but they are a very important part of the criminal ”justice” system. Cops couldn’t put people away without their help

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Alexstarfire 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] JackiesFridge 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Appreciate the links but that was 7+ years ago. What are her stances now?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

She keeps telling us that we should vote for her because of her record as a prosecutor and Attorney General so apparently what she did in those roles is what she thinks is important.

[–] Alexstarfire 4 points 3 months ago

You replied to the wrong person.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

OK Poindexter does someone need to explain linguistics to you?

[–] Angry_Autist 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And her opposition is a fascist, a felon, a liar, and a seditionist who hero worships dictators.

The choice is clear.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

That doesn't make her less of a cop though. I don't even understand your response. You get mad at people trying to push for progress because... Trump is a fascist? I don't know, your argument doesn't make sense.

My choice is easy, because I'm unable to vote due to voter disenfranchisement! But even without that, I'm a chronically ill trans person. I'm unable to get my basic, uncontrolled medication or my HRT because of regressive transphobic and ableist policies that are being made every single day. I don't really care if it's Trump or Harris overseeing the trans people being murdered, unhoused, and forced to go without health care.

Exercise your vote how you wish, but voting is the bare minimum and some of us can't even do it. Go buy a trans person a pizza or a night in a motel if you want to make the world a materially better place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're getting a one day ban for electioneering.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

enforcing a 'don't talk about voting ever, only encourage not voting' anarchist community is sus af. not voting isn't gonna make the govt disappear. not voting is just laying down and saying 'do with me what you will'. not voting, especially from anarchists, inevitably gives more weight to explicitly fascist votes. i'd like a world without goverment as well, but we aren't gonna get there not voting nor by banning people from anarchist spaces who advocate for slowing the rise of more violent fascism. material conditions, bud.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

enforcing a 'don't talk about voting ever, only encourage not voting' anarchist community is sus af.

Yeah... That kind of action does not really say "acting in good faith" or seem like supporting anarchic philosophy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Anarchism is when vote"

In some forms, when needed, yes. See: anarcho-syndicalism.

What is contrary to most anarchic philosophy is using power over others to suppress voices that express dissent in good faith. In fact, I can't think of a branch of anarchism where that's not outright contradictory to central tenets of the philosophy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

In some forms, when needed, yes. See: anarcho-syndicalism.

Yes.

But how does that even resemble the electoral system we have? I don't tell people to vote or not & I don't tell people who to vote for. You all can decided that for yourselves, I'm not your master. The no electioneering rule exist for a few reasons one being to stop drive by comments from people who have zero interest in anarchism from overwhelming people who do & it's not uncommon in anarchist spaces.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes totally that one rule in this little corner of Lemmy is totally the driving force behind the rise of fascism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ok so just being an obvious weak ass troll now. blocking this garbage account and community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Oh no, please don't do that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This is the same problem that libertyhub has, its sus as hell there too.

I get not wanting straight propaganda or canvassing, but no one is allowed to push back when you say don’t vote? Its just sucks :/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Who said don't vote?

Edit: I don't tell people to or not to vote you're all grown up people that can decided that for yourselves.

[–] friend_of_satan 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

A gram of weed would get you a citation at most in SF back then, but most likely some "get that high school shit out of here" comment.

Source: I lived in SF back then and had friends who had nearly that exact experience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] friend_of_satan 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That is sadly a very valid question for SF cops at that time.

https://www.kqed.org/news/10454955/racist-texts-prompt-sfpd-internal-investigation

This didn't come out until several years later, but I doubt racism in the force just suddenly popped up.