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Dutch beach volleyball player Steven van de Velde, who served time in prison after he was convicted of raping a 12-year-old girl, won his second match at the Paris Olympics and received an even harsher reaction from the crowd on Wednesday than for his first match.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not gonna lie, no matter how gross the age difference is, I keep thinking about the couples from my high school (in Germany, where the age of consent is 14) where there were 12 and 13 year olds involved with 17-19 year olds. It was rare but it happened and the relationships often lasted quite a while, so it was kind of... consensual, for lack of a better term. And since I don't know the girl or Van De Velde personally and I haven't been there, I wanted to abstain from judging this other than on the legal basis.

But when I read that he gave her alcohol - a 12 year old - no way. Sorry but no matter how iN lOvE anyone was or whatever, you do not give a 12 year old alcohol, unless it's a sip of your beer and she's your kid (saying this as someone raised in Bavaria). But other than that, no alcohol. And when you end up fucking a 12 year old - which is awful to begin with, worse since they only met - and first intoxicating her, that is just the point at which you cannot argue any kind of maturity, love, attraction, age of consent crap or whatever anymore. You intoxicated and fucked a minor. Period.

The more details from the case are revealed the more I have to say fuck that guy. But at the same time - fuck the judges double and triple.

[–] eatthecake 4 points 3 months ago

I appreciate your comment. I would just like to say that sometimes when 12 and 13 year olds get involved with older people in a 'consensual' relationship it is a sign of something wrong, trauma/depression/anxiety etc. It's not normal for healthy children.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hell if you did that to a legal adult it would be borderline. If you get someone really drunk and you're not, then it cannot be consensual. People have been convicted of rape for exactly that.

I think Denmark just wants to try and keep their athlete but sometimes you just have to throw people away as been beyond redemption. And you certainly don't lord them on the world stage. Denmark's problem now is that they look bad, they look irresponsible, especially all the attempts to defend him which just make the situation worse.

[–] Nfamwap 6 points 3 months ago

Dude, you meant Dutch, not Danish?