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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (12 children)

if any soldier (IDF or not) refuses orders they will either be shot on site or imprisoned unless they either have enough $$$ or connections to overturn it.

[–] victorz 10 points 3 months ago (8 children)

What if the soldiers and superiors stop shooting people on the spot. Okay wait, wait. What if... people stop obeying some lunatic single elderly people that tell us to kill other men, period, and just... not do it?

That would be neat. Imagine if humans knew what it means to be many against few, strong against weak. What we could accomplish...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

There was a massive protest by ex military and general public demanding the right of raping Palestinians. This is not about elderly people deploying orders.

[–] Reverendender -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can you cite this for me? I need to read up. Somehow I’ve been understanding that they were protesting in support of the Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Jesus, you want a citation for this?

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israelis-protest-arrest-of-soldiers-accused-of-gang-raping-gazan-detainee/3288825

There have been protests inside Israel for ceasefire, the org Standing Together has done a lot of good organizing inside the country.

But one thing that Oct.7 accomplished was show the divisions in society wrt Palestinian apartheid. Its getting more difficult for people who can't abide it to coexist with people who are okay with it; and the people who believe there should be even more brutality and violence against Palestinians are becoming a major problem for both of those groups. The state of Israel is fracturing, while groups like the PFLP, Hamas and Fatah are coming together for the first time in decades. While some of the tactics of Hamas are unconscionable, and Fatah has a long collaborationist history with Israel, it definitely indicates a dramatic change of the dynamics in the region. We'll see what holds together and what breaks apart. Its very sad that Marwan Barghouti is currently imprisoned, he's one of the most popular figures in Palestine whereas Fatah and Hamas are fairly unpopular

[–] Zakkull 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People like citation so as to not blindly believe anything and everything they just mindlessly read on the internet. Its kinda suspicious that youre being antagonistic about someone wanting to see a source on an outrageous claim like that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I didn't mean it to be antagonistic, and I provided a source. Its just such a disgusting story, bereft of any humanity. I wish I had never heard about it, I just couldn't believe someone wanted to like read about it

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