I'd like to see someone try a UBI system that was genuinely universal. Literally everyone gets it, employed or not, regardless of income level, but at the same time minimum wage is removed because your living expenses are already ostensibly covered. So if a business can get someone to come in for $1/hour, or even for free, great. All wages just become "gravy" if someone wants luxuries above and beyond basic living expenses.

Under such a system I'd be interested to see how much what are currently minimum wage jobs would need to offer on top of UBI to get people in the door. I could absolutely see things like hobby shops employing people for pennies who'd be happy to be there just due to interest/passion in the subject of their work. Conversely I could see the wages for dreary or abuse prone jobs like gas station attendant or fast food cashier going up because no one in their right mind would want to do it for a pittance if their basic needs are already covered.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

This is A very interesting thought. I think you might be not to wrong with your assumptions about jobs. I also would really like to see this in practice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Suddenly every bodies rent goes up about as much as their ubi check

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It is really simple if you eliminate social welfare and make UBI part of taxes, you free up a lot of money. Everyone gets $35 000 a year or does not pay any tax on their first $35k. This creates a system that is already less expensive to operate than the current mess and injects a lot of money into an economy. The ruling class hate this idea because if people are not jammed into a corner living paycheck to paycheck or worse, they tend to quit their jobs where their employer was abusing them and get a better education. Or say fuck you to your employer and live poor until you get a new job.

[–] Emerald 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

but at the same time minimum wage is removed because your living expenses are already ostensibly covered.

Except a UBI doesn't necessarily cover all living expensives. It's just a little boost to help people out.