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[–] Bz2486 129 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Boo him? Do you have any idea how progressive this was at the time???

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That one thing was progressive.

The literal Nazi shit he got up to, on the other hand...

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago

Right, but this post is literally just about that one thing.. If you want to boo him for the other shit you might want to bring the other stuff up as actual context in the image and repost it with the new context.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ford is one of the most fascinating people in recent history, it's a shame to boil him down to "antisemitic car man"

Reading through his wiki is like :D D: :D D: :D D:
The guy was the definition of a mad genius. An authoritarian anti-war socially progressive union-busting nazi. That description doesn't even make sense, but that's who he was.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This also points to why private businesses are better than publicly traded businesses. Private business owners can do whatever the fuck they like, good or bad, meanwhile public businesses are legally obligated to pursue profits above all else on behalf of their shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

The better option is the co-opt.

Workers owning the business and working to make it better for themselves.

[–] Beliriel 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Still more progressive than Switzerland to this day. They have normalized 42.5h workweek. You need to work 8.5 hours to be considered a fulltime employee.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

35 hour week ftw. Although many newer people I work with are on 37.5, they only get a half hour lunch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is a lunch break included here? In Germany it's the norm to work 40h, but (are obliged to) spend an additional 30 minutes there for lunch. So you're at work for 42,5h but only get paid for 40.

[–] Beliriel 2 points 1 year ago

Nope, lunch is not included and unpaid (unless specified in contract, but virtually no one pays for lunch). Effectively ypu're at work for 9.5 -10 hours.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's no such thing as a normalized workweek here in Switzerland. Most have 40-42h. The average are ~41h (edit: it seems that number is a few years old and it's now just shy of 40h - but it's too late in the evening to dig deeper). But yea, in certain jobs/industries, it can also be considerable more.

[–] Beliriel 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True it's not nkrmalised. That's my bad. All companies I met had more than 40h a week though. And even when I worked in a government owned company it was 42.5h

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago