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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What if "didn't vote" counted as "voted against both options, please try again with less shitty candidates."?

I think we'd have a better world

[–] dejected_warp_core 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hot take: voter suppression would be far more widespread, as it would stalemate the current "interim" government into power. Permanently. The current system, for all its flaws, doesn't have that weakness.

[–] Sharkictus 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My counter to that is the interim gets executed if they go over a time limit, and new one is appointed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I like the way you think

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

What if "didn't vote" counted as "voted for both options, they're equally wonderful and we'd be happy either way"?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well that's what it counts as now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Not really, did not vote is exactly the same as voted for the winner. In a FPTP not voting is saying whoever wins, that's what I wanted.

[–] hightrix 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I’ll take one good option. That’s all I ask, someone to vote for, not as a vote against the other person.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

kamala is worth voting for tbqh

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The problem with a Presidential system is that there are plenty of eligible candidates. There just aren't any "electable" ones. Even within a given state, you often only have one "electable" option, because your state is going to tilt 5-30pts towards that person anyway.

One of the appeals of a small-district parliamentary process (as seen in pretty much every other functioning liberal democracy) is that you don't need to choose between Old Racist Fuck and Coconut Lady. You can focus your attention on local politics and send up an MP aligned with a regional party willing to form coalition on the condition they can bring back some benefits to their community.

But that requires you to have elected officials you can actually meet in your neighborhood, rather than minor aristocrats who govern from impenetrable gerrymanders spread across a 50 mile territory.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

That would be amazing... If it were true

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And also ranked choice voting, so there can be more than just 2 people running. F the 2 party system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago