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Safe Streets Rebel's protest comes after automatic vehicles were blamed for incidents including crashing into a bus and running over a dog. City officials in June said...

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[–] billiam0202 25 points 1 year ago (10 children)

City officials in June said there have been ninety incidents involving Alphabet's Waymo and General Motors' Cruise vehicles since January.

Compared to how many traffic incidents involving human-operated vehicles? Because if that number is greater than 90, the AVs are the safer choice.

Automated cars don't have to be perfect; they just have to be better than people.

[–] wimpysocks 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Compared to how many traffic incidents involving human-operated vehicles? Because if that number is greater than 90, the AVs are the safer choice.

Well that is simply flawed logic. How many autonomous cars are there compared to human-operated? Far far more.

[–] billiam0202 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many autonomous cars are there compared to human-operated? Far far more.

I think you meant less.

Ideally, you'd be correct and we should be looking at per capita incidents- like how many incidents per 100 miles on the road or something. But the article just cited a flat number of incidents without contextualizing, which as you've pointed out can be misleading. Without knowing the ratio of AVs to human-driven vehicles, the best rebuttal that could be offered is "Yeah, but how do those 90 incidents compare to how people drive?"

[–] wimpysocks 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah sorry - I meant less.

And yep agree on all the rest. I was just triggered by the simple comparison.

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