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You see hate, I see a lighthearted joke.
It's no wonder the world is so on edge. We have lost all social lubricant by putting discourse online instead of interacting in person.
I agree with the downvoted commenter, this isn't much different that those who make fun of people for baggy clothes. These guys obviously have a curated fashion sense that does not align with your own. There is nothing wrong with what they are wearing. Women wear tight clothing all the time but you don't see "lighthearted jokes" about their clothes being too tight because of the dryer. The implication is that these clothes are too tight for men to wear, which is judgey and weird, and ties into sexist and homophobic ideas about what men should wear.
"It's just a joke" is the worst way to respond to this kind of criticism. This joke was funny because it drew upon your pre-existing ideas about how men should dress. And you won't even bother to imagine that the basis for your joke might be even a tiny bit harmful.
Also, ironic that in a community for streetware fashion, a movement that celebrates fashion risks, people are just hating on these honestly not-that-far-out-there outfits. I looked through the top posts and most are memes making fun of fashion and with very few inspo or discussion posts. Shitty community, it's /r/cringe for clothing.
I'm sure you would feel the same if it were at your expense.
It's a joke about dryers shrinking clothes. What are you on about? Unless... Your clothes shrunk too??
What's wrong with tight clothing? You see clothes just as tight on women every day.
Nothing... It's a joke
Jokes play on pre-existing expectations. Why is this funny? You don't see these kinds of jokes every time a woman wears tight clothing, which is often.
I mean if you want to read into it like that the original post implies if you aren't dressed like this you're a slob. Seems hateful don't you think? Or, it's just a joke.
Edit: I've seen memes about women's clothing being so tight it is hard to put on/barely fits. Still funny.
I guess, but not dressing well doesn't play into pre-existing sexist/homophobic narratives. I'm more okay with someone having a stigma against someone not dressing well, than I am okay with someone having a stigma based on gender or sexuality. Of course there are issues with the former too, like someone could be sloppily dressed because they don't have time or money to invest in and maintain a good wardrobe, they could just be living a simple lifestyle and don't like it, like it's not great ... but not as bad imho. And tbh the first post wasn't really a joke, it was an attempted motivational thing.
And, I would say the jokes about tight women's clothing are not applied in the same way. There are form-fitting outfits that women wear daily, that go uncommented on.
This reads like "I'm okay with jokes as long as I get to be the arbiter of what is fair game to joke about."
Yes, this is a normal thing to do. I'm against jokes at the expense of gender violence.
If someone posted a completely racist joke, and I criticized it, you could make this exact same comment.
Be honest, are you one of the guys in the picture?
I've been the butt of many a joke. Some even especially mean and personal. I also do the same to my own friends. This is something one of us would say to eachother and not expect to be especially painful. I don't know, maybe I am just not too sensitive and don't hang with a sensitive crowd but I feel like we tend to be emotionally supportive and apologetic if things go too far as well. Idk but this is pretty fucking tame as a meme.