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De Vries' adventure with the sister team of Red Bull has therefore only lasted ten races.

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[–] R05 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

But why? He’s shown before in the Williams that he can perform with a decent car. The AT is simply shit, Tsunoda isn’t doing much better and it’s not that he got to where he is without a few fuckups/meltdowns of his own.

EDIT: as burn points out below, he didn’t race for Mercedes but for Williams, I’ve updated my post to reflect the correct team

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tsunoda was doing better though. Sure if you look at the points and standings you don’t see a big difference. But during race day he almost always managed to increase the gap significantly between him and de Vries during the first stint. The problem is that the car is shit and loses performance at around the 2/3 mark, because the tires lose grip or the brakes become slippery. That’s when he lost significant places in a lot of races

[–] wes 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was expected because the negativeness in the media and from Marko/Horner. I saw a interview last week and when Marko was asked any question about de Vries his face really turned sour. Yes the AT is shit, but Tsunoda is outperforming de Vries most of the time. My guess was that he would be out before Zandvoort but not before the summer break.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@wes @R05 Could it be that Nick burned bridges somewhere, which is why he was immediately ditched?

[–] BURN 1 points 1 year ago

I expected summer break too. This early is crazy

[–] BURN 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I know NDV never raced a Mercedes. He performs well in practice all the time, it’s just when it comes to the race that he makes mistake after mistake.

Tsunoda is doing much better, and more vitally was part of the RB academy. NDV was a hire outside their academy and they’re regretting it. Tsunoda also didn’t come into his rookie year loudly proclaiming that he’s “not a rookie” and shouldn’t be treated like one.

[–] R05 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re right, it was with Williams. But he did score points in his debut with them in Italy.

[–] BURN 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He did, but Monza was the track the Williams was strongest at, he was being compared to latifi and Albon (the benchmark for his performance) was out of the car.

Nyck didn’t do anything particularly impressive race wise in that race, he just drove a clean race and finished where the pace of the car should probably have finished.