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Tenacious D’s Newcastle show postponed after comment about Trump assassination attempt (www.theguardian.com)

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The latest show on Tenacious D’s Australian tour has been postponed after senator Ralph Babet demanded the pair be deported following an apparent joke about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

American comedy rock duo Jack Black and Kyle Gass were due to perform in Newcastle on Tuesday evening, but the show – part of the band’s Spicy Meatball Tour – was cancelled without notice on Tuesday afternoon.

Concert promoter Frontier Touring said on social media that it regretted “to advise that Tenacious D’s concert tonight at Newcastle Entertainment Centre has been postponed”.

Video from the event showed (Kyle) Gass being presented with a birthday cake and told to “make a wish” as he blew out the candles. Gass then appeared to say “don’t miss Trump next time” – just hours after the shooting at Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania that left the former president injured.

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

But chapelle made none standup/comedy related statements about gender and trans people. Not everything is political. I dislike trump in a huge way. I think he is a horrible human being who doesn't deserve to run a country. He will cause so much damage if re-elected. But i do not wish him harm.

I dont believe kyle does either. I'm not sure how that's political. It's more of a moral stance and my view on kyles moral stance.

Chapelle is transphobic, also not a political issue, even if it's an issue that political commentators like to argue about. Gender is a social issue that has been heavily politicised, but my views on it are not related to politics.

So i dont put them both in the same camp. I dont agree with either of them, but there is clearly a difference between denying trans peoples existence outside of your comedy and making an off-hand joke on stage at a concert. Especially if you apologise for the joke instead of doubling down like dave did.

[–] krashmo -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"Kyle does not wish Trump harm" and "Dave is transphobic" are both judgments that you've made. You're entitled to hold those opinions but it is important to recognize that you've used the same kind of evidence (jokes they made) to reach opposite conclusions about the two men. You dismissed one as a joke that does not reflect the character of the speaker and used the other as indisputable evidence of a character flaw.

The fact that these conclusions line up with your own political beliefs is absolutely relevant because it helps you understand why you are doing it. It's probably subconscious but you're viewing the world through a distorted lens when you make inconsistent value judgments like this. Correcting those distortions and becoming more consistent is part of what it means to mature as a human being.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My belief that kyle doesn't wish trump harm is 100% my opinion. It may be a belief i have formed through a "distorted lense", yes, that is very possible. But to call it a conclusion is not exactly correct. I will change my belief and draw a conclusion when the evidence is presented.

My conclusion about dave is one drawn from statements made by dave. Not his jokes, not his standup. Dave has continually reaffirmed this stance, he denies the existence of trans people and repeatedly states that there are 2 genders. A line he said comes to mind "gender is a fact" its not one incident, its many. I would say to draw a conclusion based of one incident would be "distorted" but to base it on years of anti trans rhetoric is quite a clear and clean cut conclusion to draw...