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About 59% of Americans say TikTok a threat to the national security of the United States, according to a new survey of U.S. adults.

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[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you can be radicalized by videos from YouTube, it isn't the algorithm, it's you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

World doesn't exist in an individual vacuum. The people negatively influenced by disinformation go onto to take a role in society and interact with others to either negatively or positively affect the people they encounter. Congratulations on your individual resilience, but the world is not a population consisting of only you with you alone determining the impact other people have on the world.

[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah and, once again, those people are the problem.

Unless you want to ban any food that isn't fruits and vegetables, cars, not sleeping enough, not getting enough exercise etc, at some point you have to accept that people do in fact make their own choices.

I'm not for banning things because some people are idiots.

[–] surewhynotlem 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you have to accept that people do in fact make their own choices.

I feel bad that you've been radicalized into thinking this way.

[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago

Im not concerned with your feelings.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just all you or all youtube. Both matter. It's harmfully reductionist to act like it, not both.

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both really don't matter, since adults have a right to chose to consume any content they'd like.

If your grandma finds Q fascinating, that's on your grandma

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also the fault of those producing Q content.

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it isn't. Every demand will find a seller. That's just how reality works.

The overwhelming majority of "radical" content creators are just riding a grift train.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you agree, they are also at fault.

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Snake oil salesmen are not to blame for people craving snake oil. They're merely filling the demand gap

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Explain why people want novel new things.

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So your saying that the supply caused a demand?

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No I'm literally saying the opposite. You cannot manufacture demand

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hahhaa ok sure, buddy. Big news for advertising.

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we can manufacture demand, then supply-side economics is the way to go, full stop. Youre a big fan of Reagan, I take it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is not the implication of the ability to make others want things. Also, I clearly stated that the fault lies with both the producer of materials and the consumer.

[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Advertising does work, yes, but only for products in which demand already exists. No significant amount of people will buy a hand-cutting-off machine no matter how it is advertised.

The radicalization began decades ago, initially couched in racial resentment, and has spread largely via Americans' innate dissatisfaction with government, which goes back literally hundreds of years.

This resentment has certainly been fostered, even engineered, and I would separate those who have directly engineered or manipulated such resentment (e.g. Benghazi trials, trans panic, Critical Race Theory) with those who merely profit from it.

Two very different groups, imo.