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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's like a 30 point check list and so far they've completed zero or maybe one. It's a long way.

Erdogan reinstated the death penalty at the coup, so basically he has moved away from EU membership since taking control.

I think it's a good thing that it is a long process, even if people moan about Ukraine not getting a shortcut. Imagine if Turkey had completed the membership before the coup. That would have been horrible today. Similarly it would be unwise to allow Ukraine in right now, since we have no idea of what will happen after the war. A dictator could potentially take the power there too. The requirements aren't just bureaucracy, they do serve a purpose.

Personally I hope that they both succeed eventually, but it has to be done properly. Both Ukraine and Turkey could contribute positively to EU if only they manage to get proper democratic governments and follow human rights etc. first.