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Academic Indoctrination (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 157 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Reality has a left-leaning bias.

[–] Delta_V 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To put it another way, in a democracy where most people have to work for a living, its politically expedient for socialists to tell the truth and for aristocrats to lie.

[–] davidagain 11 points 4 months ago

I never really thought about it like this, but it makes sense now, thank you.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Man, if only. Maybe then we wouldn't have so many fucking fascists running things.

[–] davidagain 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The point was that when you report the facts, and just the facts, without spin, the right fairly reliably calls it leftwing bias, because it contradicts the rightwing position which was misleading. Why would normal people vote for policies that only make rich people richer? Only because you convinced them it was in their interests. "Reality has a left-leaning bias" means that if you're fully aware of all the facts, you tend to draw a more left wing conclusion. It's unusual that a rightwinger would admit this, but Trump's press officer was told "but the facts are....." and responded with "we have some alternative facts for you" and was widely ridiculed for admitting out loud that their "facts" were different to the objectively verified facts.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

when you report the facts, and just the facts, without spin

I'll believe it when I see it. But every report needs some kind of perspective - where the story starts and ends, who to quote, what details to exclude for brevity, hell what language to use when you're writing the article.

“Reality has a left-leaning bias” means that if you’re fully aware of all the facts, you tend to draw a more left wing conclusion

There are plenty of educated, informed, intelligent conservatives who draw deeply reactionary conclusions from available evidence.

But that's not an information issue. That's a morality issue.

Trump’s press officer was told “but the facts are…” and responded with “we have some alternative facts for you” and was widely ridiculed for admitting out loud that their “facts” were different to the objectively verified facts.

Oh, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Get back to Bush Jr's Iraq War crew.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community#Origin

'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'.

Reagan and Nixon aids have said crazier shit, still. And then you get back to Allen Dulles under Eisenhower.

Truly down the rabbit hole