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[–] laughterlaughter 12 points 4 months ago (20 children)

I hate these arguments because they only focus on Biden.

TRUMP SAID LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE during the debate - oh, but Biden is the problem?!

Just go out and vote, and Trump will go away.

Don't vote, or do a protest vote and you'll regret being this dense later.

[–] notaviking 4 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Your argument is basically Trump bad, vote other person. Yes the other person alternative might be better than Trump, but is that really how you would inspire someone to go vote, through fear of the other rather than having an inspiration leader you are willing to support.

[–] laughterlaughter 1 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Of course not. I'd rather motivate a person to go vote for progress, not fear.

But what options do we have now? What should we do? Continue whining about Biden and give Trump a chance, a moron who is 1000x worse?

And let's be clear. I blame democrats for putting us in this situation as much as the republicans for sucking up to Trump.

But for now, let's put the fire out first, then deal with internal politics later.

[–] scorpious 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The “fire” is only burning because the dems are wishing for maga-like willingness to deny what we hear and see for ourselves: Biden is unfit to lead America.

WE ALL SAW IT. YOU DID TOO. Denial and gaslighting will not work with non-maga thinking adults.

Stop pretending it’s okay. If the stakes are as high as the dems themselves keep screaming, then act like it and put up a capable candidate.

[–] laughterlaughter 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There's your false statement: "Biden is unfit to lead America."

No, he is not. Prove it beyond a debate performance.

Because if we're going to just focus on the debate - then neither is Trump. And as the matter of fact, Trump is way, way more unfit.

So... what do?

[–] scorpious 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stop pretending it was a “bad night,” for starters.

[–] laughterlaughter 1 points 4 months ago

It was a bad night.

Also, this professor predicted Trump's 2016 victory when everyone thought Clinton was in the lead. He is now predicting Biden's victory:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/allan-lichtman-election-predictor-biden-debate-performance_n_66825021e4b0b85bde42df7b

A quote from the article:

Lichtman brushed the talk aside and noted that questions over Biden’s physical capabilities are not coming from doctors.

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