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[–] laughterlaughter 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Of course not. I'd rather motivate a person to go vote for progress, not fear.

But what options do we have now? What should we do? Continue whining about Biden and give Trump a chance, a moron who is 1000x worse?

And let's be clear. I blame democrats for putting us in this situation as much as the republicans for sucking up to Trump.

But for now, let's put the fire out first, then deal with internal politics later.

[–] notaviking 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, we see eye to eye in the general sense. I just differ in regards to how we move forward, I believe there still is time to change and overcome and hope to win, but that window is closing quickly. Where I also see your point in that the race has gone too far, we have to back our current horse and hope to win.

The thing I am basing my judgement on is the poll projections. Trump has nothing to lose and everything to win. Democrats will have everything to lose. There is time to change course or study in the future why we did not listen to the Canary in the mine

[–] laughterlaughter 1 points 4 months ago

Indeed. The canary in the mine was when the GOP shut down the government twice under Obama. I thought that action would put an end to them in the next elections. But then everyone got complacent. I was flabbergasted when they won both the senate and the house under Trump.

[–] scorpious 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The “fire” is only burning because the dems are wishing for maga-like willingness to deny what we hear and see for ourselves: Biden is unfit to lead America.

WE ALL SAW IT. YOU DID TOO. Denial and gaslighting will not work with non-maga thinking adults.

Stop pretending it’s okay. If the stakes are as high as the dems themselves keep screaming, then act like it and put up a capable candidate.

[–] laughterlaughter 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There's your false statement: "Biden is unfit to lead America."

No, he is not. Prove it beyond a debate performance.

Because if we're going to just focus on the debate - then neither is Trump. And as the matter of fact, Trump is way, way more unfit.

So... what do?

[–] scorpious 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stop pretending it was a “bad night,” for starters.

[–] laughterlaughter 1 points 4 months ago

It was a bad night.

Also, this professor predicted Trump's 2016 victory when everyone thought Clinton was in the lead. He is now predicting Biden's victory:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/allan-lichtman-election-predictor-biden-debate-performance_n_66825021e4b0b85bde42df7b

A quote from the article:

Lichtman brushed the talk aside and noted that questions over Biden’s physical capabilities are not coming from doctors.