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[–] GraniteM 99 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

There's two points that I look at when I think of how much the Star Trek future is driven by people just doing what they enjoy.

The first is when Captain Jellico takes over the Enterprise and everyone gets all grumpy and Riker gets relieved of duty. Things aren't going well and Jellico goes to Riker's quarters to talk, and after asking for permission to speak freely, Riker tells him "You've taken all the joy out of everything." In this ship of hundreds of hyperqualified people working with bleeding edge technology, literally hours away from possibly facing their deaths and the start of a galactic war, Riker is correctly pointing out the the commanding officer isn't letting them have fun anymore. People in Star Trek don't get paid, they do what they do for the love of the game.

The second point is when Eddington goes rogue and Sisko realizes that he was fan of Les Miserables, and that Eddington is essentially cosplaying as Jean Valjean and wants Sisko to be Javert. Sisko points out that Eddington didn't have to become a terrorist or betray his uniform. He could have resigned any time he wanted. But he loved his role play so damn much that he was willing, even eager, to get the most determined man in the quadrant pissed off enough to hunt him down at all costs, and Sisko was able to use the implied script of this role play to capture Eddington. In this case, Eddington was having so much fun with his version of living his best life, he was literally willing to get captured and sent to prison because it was how he wanted to play the game.

People in Star Trek can choose to stay on any number of paradise planets, and quite a lot do, but they will also will face death and worse than death, all in the name of self-actualization, and that's pretty fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It reminds me, or vice versa, of the Culture series. It's a universe that's so post scarcity it makes Star Trek look a bit mercantile.

One of the most coveted and sought after things in The Culture are jobs. Because AI Minds do pretty much all the necessary labor, only jobs that organic brains and bodies are required for still exist and they are seen as prestigious. Everyone has everything they could desire and the only thing left to work for is purpose.

[–] basdiljhs 14 points 4 months ago

I think this here is the reason why I, as a young boy watching startrek with my dad back in the 90's, felt like I had to pursue self actualization and other higher leveled Maslow hierarchial needs even though the environment around me was and still is just looking to satisfy base needs,

Now that I'm thinking about this out loud I guess this could also be applied to 1st world countries as well , their base need being money/food/resources/safety i.e. first level of Maslow's needs. For context as a child I moved from a 1st world country to a 2nd or 3rd world country depending on how you look at it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just watched the episode where he becomes a spy and it was so stressful. The whole time I was wondering why he'd put himself through all that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

That's one of my favorite episodes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Eddington was having so much fun with his version of living his best life, he was literally willing to get captured and sent to prison because it was how he wanted to play the game.

And Sisko was having so much fun with his version of living his best life, committing was crimes.