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From what I've gathered, there's a decent amount of widespread bitterness out there about mastodon and gargron's choices exactly like what you've just expressed.
Mastodon is gargron's personal project. He runs exactly how he wants to and doesn't care too much about what others think. Except it's the one big player on the fediverse and has been put there because of a lot of other people's work and adoption.
It's influence and dominance over the fediverse is likely a serious problem because of exactly what you're talking about. There was a moment last year when fedi-enthusiasts kinda realised that some platform diversity is likely necessary in the fedi microblogging space. Some efforts were made (firefish was the one I was closest to), but no real inroads were made.
Personally, I'd like to help the threadiverse (lemmy and other group-first platforms) provide that diversity. I think these platforms can grow into providing user-based features similar to k/mbin but in a way that's not beholden to the microblogging baggage of twitter while also providing other features, structures and spaces.
I was really hopeful about FireFish and then it kinda went to hell. That said, Lemmy has done well to stand firm. Hopefully we continue to see growth in that aspect. Looking at what Discourse and NodeBB are doing, perhaps the Threadiverse will have to the numbers to force Mastodon to act like a team player.
One thing I'll say though. If the apps for the other microblogging services didn't suck, I think more people would use them.
Yea I was part of the firefish hype from pretty early ... it was a sad moment for the fediverse.
Discourse and NodeBB developments are definitely awesome to see!
The other microblogging services have apps? Like akkoma ... has a mobile app? Is that what you mean?
IceShrimp is still pretty good
yea, heard good things.
The thing about firefish is that at the time there was still an energy among newcomers to mastodon to look for and even build new things. It's death and the way it happened genuinely burned some people I think and definitely let an opportunity slip.
That's understandable. A lot went into creating that FireFish wave.
They don't have apps and the sparse few apps available aren't as good as Moshidon.