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    submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/linuxmemes
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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    "restarting" for 15 minutes. Then crashes. Now I have to reinstall updates and go through it all over again. I hate how crappy the windows update process has become.

    Except for the immutable versions I have, Linux almost never needs to reboot after an update. Upgrades, yes, but not standard updates. And even after upgrades, it just works [(except for one of the immutable versions I have)].

    I usually close all programs before shutting down / rebooting, anyway (a habit I picked up from Win95 days, where it would crash if programs prevented it from shutting down), so I don't really feel this SIGKILL issues.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Linux almost never needs to reboot after an update

    Doesn't it often need a reboot to apply some updates?

    I rember reading something along those lines then I was researching why Fedora installs some updates after a reboot. Most

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Fedora is the immutable I was referring to that does need to reboot. Linux Mint and OpenSuse only need to reboot after an upgrade. I've never had to reboot them after updates. Mileage may vary, of course, as different people have different software, tools, and libraries installed.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I was talking about regular fedora. It's not that you have to reboot, but you don't get to use those updates until you do. The most obvious example is updating the kernel and its modules.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

    You're correct. A kernel update would fall under the umbrella of a system upgrade, where the system needs to shut down to allow underlying components to be reloaded.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    to be fair, fedora downloads and apply the update before reboot, windows download, apply and then reboot, that's why it take so much time

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    Right, but Fedora failures allows me still to boot. Windows failures forces an uninstallation of the update, killing even more time. There are good and bad things to each approach.

    [–] Ironfacebuster 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    As Microsoft adds ads in more places more and more, I consider moving over to Linux but I just have too many files and weird Windows only programs that I use that I can't

    I also haven't really found a desktop environment I really like yet, so I'm open to suggestions for dual booting!

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I pretty much always recommend Linux Mint Cinnamon for anyone entering Linux for the first time or anyone who wants something to just work 98% of the time. I use Mint Debian Edition (testing it out. So far, so good, and it's quickly entering first place in terms of recommendations, as it seems just as stable and uses Debian packages instead of Ubuntu's), OpenSuse with KDE (less for beginner's and more for those who want "eye candy" and some nostalgia), and Fedora Silverblue (currently have an update issue with its certificates, so can't really recommend it yet). I've found very few Windows programs to not work within WINE (more complex, system file dependent programs generally are those that fail), so you may find that all of your Windows-only programs work perfectly fine under WINE.

    With Mint (and others, I'm sure), you can install multiple DEs and test them out, then remove those you don't like. Or keep them all and play DE roulette I guess lol

    [–] Ironfacebuster 2 points 3 months ago

    I'll definitely check some of those out, thanks! I have a little experience with Linux since every self hosted server PC I've built has always had Ubuntu Server, but even then I was tempted to try and dual boot Mint

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

    I was doing my project while system updated itself from sources. Шindows should take notes here.

    And I'm not even talking about CRIU, where you can save entire progtam state on disk, reboot and restore it back in the state before reboot.