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It's time to see if the polls are right.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but I think you're overstating how right wing Labour pitched it. There were no claims to be anti woke. I think it was a pretty firmly centrist pitch. It's the Conservatives who are going to panic and try to out-nutcase Farage. Labour are going to try and be responsible and fix the broken ship. It's just whether they can do it fast enough for people to notice a big improvement in the cost of living vs wages problem.

[–] tankplanker 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you forgetting Starmers statements around women only spaces as it seems like it.

Farages entire point of existence is to drag the overton window to the right, which he succeed yet again, particularly around Brexit.

The other big concession Starmer made, this time because of the Tories, was not to raise taxes, which was also incredibly dumb. As was honouring triple lock.

My biggest issue with Starmer making claims like these is that he will stick to them. Someone like Boris is too lazy and an out and out liar so has no problem dropping things. Starmers big pitch to be different is that he will stick with what he says.

By sticking to what he said around terfs issues, Brexit, taxes, he really fucks his options in these areas, and for what? As you and I have both said, toil not out crazy Farage or be trusted by people who these are important issues for, so it's a massively stupid thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

You make very good points.