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Housing Bubble 2: Return of the Ugly
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What good will it do for you to avoid contact with landlords? If you need to rent, you have to rent from a landlord. If you can afford to own your own house, you'd prefer to do that to begin with.
In my life, when I have found out people make money off renting housing, I scrutinize it enough to see if they fall into one of the categories I previously mentioned, If not, I stopped associating with them. I used to underwrite private loans, including mortgages, and worked in that world. They are designed to push people, at large, into renting, as most financial institutions are heavily invested where renting benefits them. This makes landlords even worse. When I have been forced to rent, I treated them like I was being forced to do business with a crook. Treating them with this assumption has proven to behoove me in numerous occasions. I have never had to rent from someone who didn't do something shady, if not outright felonious.
Landlording is bad for the working people, drags society at large, and benefits a coercive state of affairs that only benefits huge, shady, investment firms/banks. So, when the poster replied, and said they were a landlord, It just exposed one crook calling out another. Sure, they could be an ethical landlord, but that is unlikely. So it is best to just assume they will fuck you over, just like they look at felons.
Being able to rent a place was very good for me when I was looking for a good job. I wouldn't be where I am today if I had to fucking buy a place to live every time I job hopped in my youth.
If we didn't treat housing as a source of profit, and invest vehicles, these types of concerns wouldn't be the issue they are now. There are plenty of academic papers out there explaining this. wouldn't take but a few hours of something like google scholar, with search terms like "alternatives to housing as investment and profit vectors" or "housing as a right realized" should bring up more than you could ever read on the subject.
Oh yeah I'm sure there's been a lot of social studies made about how not giving free housing to everyone is literally racism or something equally dumb.
Oh, an ad hominem attack. This time the accusation of a logical fallacy being used is correct. Instead of bothering to read the research on the subject, and making your argument against the research, you instead make an irrelevant attack on the source based purely on your own biases, and emotional reaction. You have no argument, just the desire for what you do to not actually be bad, partially because you are ignorant to the problems it creates, partially because you don't like the idea that you are doing something that is bad. This is where a lot of the rage against the science behind climate change comes from. People don't like being told that what they do, their way of life, is bad.
Come back when you have something other than a blatant logically fallacy to support yourself.
Lmao I hit a nerve for sure.
Come back when you have an actual argument instead of hatred.
Ps: Weren't you the guy who said they didn't want to interact with landlords or something?
Ah sweetie, it is clear that it is not my nerves that have been hit.
Now, we gonna fuck and get this over with, or are you gonna stop bothering me after initiating all contact?
We're going to start over that other thread here? I am not the one who said they were done talking lmao.
Look, it's ok, when this conversation ends and this submission goes forgotten by everyone, I'll still be renting the properties I worked hard to own, enjoying life and a bright future when I retire. You'll still be mad angry and pathetic.
Look, it's ok, you came to me, like a lost puppy, and started biting at my ankles. When this is over I will be happy running my business, that actually adds value to the world, and you will still be a leech upon society. My service will continue to be considered respectable, and yours will continue to decline, in that manner, as housing becomes less, and less, affordable.
Thankfully, I have reached a point where I don't feel the need to acquire more property, as managing what I have takes enough work on top of my job.
Feel free to hate me and keep replying to me, it gives me serotonin.
PS: if you were actually running a successful business, you wouldn't be complaining about housing prices ;)
Tell yourself whatever you need to believe about the person who faults you for your choice of business, which is provably bad for society.
I get dopamine from this, so...
PS: I have actual empathy, and though I can afford housing with ease, at this point in my life, I know how much pain, stress, anxiety, and fear it causes for those who are not as privileged as I am. I do not accept the "fuck you, I got mine" philosophy you, apparently, adhere to. You just keep justifying the negative response you got.
I'm not justifying anything lmao you're the one crying.
I don't actually care, this conversation started because I said I make the conscious decision to not rent to convicted felons. If you think your endless complaints about how bad of a person that makes me somehow get to me in a meaningful way, you're wrong. I'm actually laughing at you.
You've said multiple times you didn't want to interact with me and yet here you are, endlessly replying to my comments.
It would take you 0 effort to stop.
I know I wont change your mind, that isn't the point. I am having fun here. You said you didn't want me to interact with you, yet you were the first one to interact with me, and you continue to do so. Everything you accuse me of, you are guilty of too. So woo. Let's keep going love.
I think you genuinely have a few missing screws
We agree on something