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[–] lung 22 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It's shit like this that makes me convinced that governments can easily hack into pretty much every system

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

They probably can. jut every hack done has the possibility of spoiling the exploit. A good exploit can cost a million $. So if hacking you is worth more then say 100k to them, you're in trouble. Otherwise they will only target you with everyday surveilance.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 9 points 3 days ago

I mean, on TV every character seems to be able to hack any system in a few seconds.

They clearly must have done some research by watching some NSA hackers who can hack every system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Most can't, but that's why clandestine cyber-intelligence firms like NSO group exist.

[–] lung 6 points 3 days ago

That's a spooky one. From first glance - 500 employees and zero click takeovers of phones? Yikes. Makes me want to not have a phone... Ofc Google/Apple/USA have had this capacity for ages

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well only if they know about it before it gets patched...

[–] scrion 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's why there is a huge market for 0-day exploits.

[–] vxx 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn't there attempts to sneak in vulnerabilities with new commits?

[–] scrion 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, targeted attacks like that definitely exist, most famously maybe the most recent social pressure to merge a vulnerability to the xz library by actor "Jia Tan":

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/04/what-we-know-about-the-xz-utils-backdoor-that-almost-infected-the-world/

This started a whole discussion about relying on (often unpaid) volunteer work for critical systems and the pressure and negativity these people face, which is a discussion that was absolutely needed, and which we are still lightyears away from fixing.

Currently, open source is still treated like this: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/10341

(I can only recommend reading the whole story around this issue, which boils down to Microsoft admitting they rely on an open source project for something they consider critical to their customers, but not willing to pay the maintainer a bounty for fixing the issue)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

The NSA is doubtless sitting on a trove of these types of vulnerabilities to use when they really need access to something.