this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2024
171 points (97.2% liked)

Linux

48372 readers
1902 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It's very new. Previously the system would just drop to a console with a message saying "Kernel panic: not syncing: [reason]" and a whole bunch of debug info.

But still, on a well-maintained system, that pretty much never happens. Mainly because Linux is significantly more resilient to faults in device drivers than Windows.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Begs the question what's the point in all of this? In 20 or so years of using Linux (usually maintaining multiple systems at once) I've had a kernel panic maybe about 4 times for different reasons, and on those occasions the console debug info was fine. I don't really understand the excitement around making error messages look more like Windows. It can't be around being more newbie friendly since if you're having kernel panics you probably need to be an expert or have expert advice anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I guess it will make developers who develop the kernel and its components go "hehe fat penguin anyway let's continue debugging this mess"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

even on a less well-maintained system it's probably not going to be the kernel having a freakout, the kernel is going to be just fine while something else shits itself (probably graphics drivers on a desktop tbh, my vega 10 loves to vomit onto the screen and pass out)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Linux is monolithic so it breaks when a kernel module fails. It can sometimes recover but sometimes the system is in such a bad state a panic is triggered to protect against further issues.