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[–] DarkCloud 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Not really, proxy wars have been fought with multiple nations before.

... practically everyone was in Syria... Russia, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Armenia, Qatar, The USA, ISIS, Al-queda, and Syrian forces.

[–] pennomi 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Not exactly a proxy war when Russian troops are personally in Ukraine. That’s just a war.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The Korean War had over a million NATO troops and also tens of thousands of Soviet troops and, somehow, remained a proxy war. A particularly bloody one, but there was still no actual open full-scale warfare between NATO and the Warsaw Pact. Even China and America remained officially at peace, despite making up the majority of the forces on each side

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Korean War was led by the UN. NATO wasn’t involved.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Apologies, I was using "NATO troops" as a shorthand for the large number of countries involved rather than the specific command structure. You are right to bring that up

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Russia is actively in Syria from the end of 2015 as an official belligerent, it's not something new for Russia to fight directly while others use only proxies.

But I can see your point; still - officially - this is only a ~~three days~~ military operation. When that stance will finally change in the official channels, it will mean they can't hold the mask anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It’s not a proxy war between Russia and the US. It’s a proxy war between China and the US.

Russia and Ukraine are the pawns

[–] DarkCloud -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's a proxy war because the two major powers are fighting in an area neither of them own.

Iraq was a proxy war, even though US troops were there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] DarkCloud 2 points 4 months ago

Because Russia was funding one side, ask George Bush senior.

[–] pennomi 4 points 4 months ago

I’d say not since Russia is trying to directly annex those portions of Ukraine. How is that a proxy?