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According to the latest reports, Windows 11 has made an independent choice by automatically turning on OneDrive folder backup for Desktop, Pictures, Documents, Music, and Video folders without your permission. This signifies that, whether you approve or not, everything is becoming coordinated with the cloud.

This action from Microsoft fits into a larger pattern where big tech companies cleverly (or not so cleverly) promote their services and subscriptions to users. It isn’t only about Microsoft; there have been instances of Google doing something similar with Google Photos and its storage plans.

Keep an eye on your settings, particularly when you have just finished setting up a new device or updating your operating system. Companies such as Microsoft constantly seek methods to link users with their environments—sometimes without permission.

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[–] pufferfisherpowder 14 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Funnily, or sadly enough, OneDrive integration is one of the things I miss from my windows days. It's just extremely convenient how it's integrated into explorer and office. And how well the smart/ on-demand sync works. I can't find a setup to replicate this on Linux.

That being said I don't intend to go back and this move is insane.

[–] sylver_dragon 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you are willing to self-host, I've found Nextcloud integrates well in Linux. I had been using it before I made the switch and it worked out just fine afterwards. I originally set it up to have a cloud-sync option for my phone, which didn't mean passing everything through Google first. But, it also proved to be a handy way to sync files on my desktop as well.
It just shows up as another folder on my system and Libre Office is happy to work on files from there (with some permissions fiddling due to flatpak).

[–] pufferfisherpowder 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yes, but I can't get the virtual file system/on-demand sync to work properly. It turn off every time I reboot. I gave up after a while since it's experimental for now anyway.

[–] sylver_dragon 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's interesting. I've not had that sort of issue. On my phone (Android), my son's laptop (Windows) and my desktop (Arch Linux) the NextCloud clients all sync perfectly and run at start up. Granted, knowing that the Linux landscape is fractured, I wouldn't be overly surprised if the client had issues on some flavors of Linux.

[–] pufferfisherpowder 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The client works fine, it's just the virtual file system option that turns off after a reboot.

[–] sylver_dragon 1 points 6 months ago

My apologies, I was not familiar with the difference. I'm going to have to test this when I am back at my system. Looking at the docs, it does seem to be experimental in Linux. But it seems odd that it would turn off automagically.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I use Nexcloud-client and so far, it syncred the ~/nextcloud folder pretty good with my Linux devices so far, but I do not jave huge files in it either. Mostly my keepass file.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I'm in a similar situation - I'm a (retired) Unix admin and have Linux servers at home but I'm still on windows for my desktop because of OneDrive. If you use it as intended, it works really well. I can login to my laptop, my phone or either of my wife's PC's and all my stuff is just there.

Yes, I've tried nextcloud and it's close, but the windows sync client is (was?) broken - the upload speed throttling logic is broken and it was going to take ages to sync my data. I went to the nextcloud community and it seemed to be a known issue that know one cares about because the sync just happens in the background and it's done when it's done.

As I typed this I realised that if I move to Linux desktop I don't care about the windows sync client :-) So now I've just got the issue that I won't get my wife off windows and if we're paying for 5TB of cloud storage, I might as well use it. Yes, I know there are ways to use OneDrive on Linux, but it doesn't look as seamless and I'd be always concerned that Microsoft will do something to break it.

[–] pufferfisherpowder 2 points 6 months ago

Thank you! I thought was going nuts. It's been such a long time since I had think about whether something is synced or a way to set it up. With OneDrive I could just grab the files I needed from the cloud and push them off the drive if I needed space. It really took away any hassle about sync.

It really feels like moving to Linux is a step back 10 years when it comes to cloud storage.
I also tried nextcloud but the smart / on-demand/ virtual file system is experimental in the Linux client and doesn't work as seemlesly as OneDrive. Besides being turned off every time I restart.

[–] terminhell 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I had luck with increasing memory allocation in my php config for mine. Also having more ram may help if you have bigger files. Afaik nextcloud doesn't have caching like unraid or truenas. I'm not aware of transfer speed issues. I've also no issues saturating my 1gig connection to it either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My issue was specifically the windows sync client - not server or web related. I turned on debug in the client and watched the logs and saw it making stupid (IMHO) decisions about speed throttling.

[–] terminhell 1 points 6 months ago

Oh, hmm idk bout that then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I've been using next loud with my Nas for years. I sync things to it. Linux Windows Mac, doesn't matter. Even my phone.

[–] Impromptu2599 1 points 6 months ago

Have you played with NextCloud

[–] paridoxical 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ExpanDrive is not free (as in libre or beer), but it's great for OneDrive integration with the filesystem. Been using it for this for a few months now with no issues. Just my two cents.

[–] pufferfisherpowder 2 points 6 months ago

Thanks! I looked at it but I would like to stop giving money to MS. So my plan is to ultimately move away from OneDrive.