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[–] dogslayeggs 29 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Do the ultra-orthodox support what is happening in Palestine? Are they pacifists who want the killing to stop?

I'm all for letting people refuse to fight if they are sincerely anti-war. But if they are out there cheering the genocide that's happening, then make them put their necks on the line.

[–] Jaderick 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

From my understanding, the Ultra-Orthodox are the lynchpin in Netanyahu’s right-wing coalition so they nominally support the events thus far.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not entirely correct. The Ultra-Orthodox spectrum is composed of different factions/sects that hold widely varying beliefs and interpretations of Judaism.

While a majority of Ultra-Orthodox are represented in the current government, there are also some Ultra-Orthodox factions that reject the Israeli state completely. Some won't fight due to their religious studies, some due to their pacifism, some due to their pro-Palestinian sentiment, and other will fight because of their convictions or their desire to settle in the west bank.

The infighting between these groups and their sometimes messianic beliefs and discussions are sometimes very intransparent from the outside. Sometimes internal feuds even erupt in street riots between groups or police.

[–] Jaderick 9 points 1 week ago

True they are not a monolith, however it seems that the Likud party’s coalition is being supported by Shad and the United Torah Judaism, both Haredi parties. Because the coalition is only up 4 seats I stated they’re the smaller parties lynchpin in Netanyahu’s government.

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