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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (12 children)

If I remember the ancient days correctly, you were supposed to downvote incorrect info so it wouldn't appear at the top? You weren't supposed to downvote if you disagreed but if it was wrong info? Am I hallucinating that?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Those were still the rules when I left last year. People will upvote misinformation in the face of proof on there and here on lemmy.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 11 points 3 days ago (9 children)

If a platform puts arrow buttons on everything people say, and tell you that up means you get "points", it's a social metric. At this point if you're trying to create a consensus metric, you'll have to think of something else. It's too ingrained in us.

[–] CodexArcanum 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This kind of information is all suppressed now, but early on when Facebook only had likes, there was a lot of discussion on how downvotes weren't really needed. It was believed that people engaged more with content they enjoyed, and ignored unfavorable content.

This is wildly wrong. People obsessively engage with content they hate, to the extent that it probably makes more sense to only have a down vote button. Everyone knows that now, and the big sites uses psychological studies funded by casinos to gamify engagement, entirely in the pursuit of click-pennies.

What do votes mean? On lemmy it seems nothing. On other sites they mean revenue for the owners.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Except youtube, because dislikes were only used to call out scams and ads. The ad people got mad and now misinformation is easier to spread.

[–] AdrianTheFrog 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t say ‘only’. There were a lot of downvoted things that were just controversial.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, there were, and for the most part YT promoted those dislikes the same as likes. I think they still do. The dislikes they actually removed were the visible ones, the ones people could use to steer clear of ads and scams.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 3 points 3 days ago

I have never cared for human nature. It's tedious at best and often ghastly. We should all concern ourselves much more with human nurture.

To put it plainly, we should not be letting corporations do research on how to manipulate our most base instincts on social media. That would have been a moderate solution a century ago. Now we would need a more radical approach, such as outlawing most forms of advertising content and social media manipulation. And even raising the topic probably makes me sound insane.

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