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[–] TechNerdWizard42 -4 points 5 months ago (20 children)

Natural gas heating is very efficient and huge BTUs for low cost. When you live where it actually gets cold, it's important. As is heating water. Cooking at restaurants also important.

Not everything is binary. We don't need 100% renewables and 0% gas and 0% plastic and 0% ICE vehicles. Renewable energy is 68% in Canada or 20% in the USA in terms of energy production. Getting those USA numbers to 50% or both to 80% is more important.

FYI, in the USA natural gas is about 32% of the USA's energy use. 15% of natural gas is used by residences. That's 4.8% of the power. Which means this entire debate goes out the window if you just installed 5% more solar or wind energy.

Making people fight and become tribal over trivial things that mean nothing is an easy way to prevent anything from happening. Idiots are fighting over trying to reduce 4.8% of energy that is perfectly fine at what it's doing. Meanwhile the natural gas companies are happy to keep supplying the remaining 27% of the USAs entire power via gas, and not a damn thing is being done. Use your energy to get that 27% down to 22% and you've done better than you ever will with demanding residences be built with shitty alternatives.

[–] VelvetGentleman 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Not everything is binary. We don't need 100% renewables and 0% gas and 0% plastic and 0% ICE vehicles.

As a species, we need to get to zero emissions, and ideally negative numbers. It's easy to point fingers at others and then do nothing, but there's too much of that going on right now. Any reduction is a good thing.

[–] TechNerdWizard42 -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You can't have 0 emmisions. Even a barren asteroid emits.

You can have net 0. And net 0 can include petrochemicals.

[–] VelvetGentleman 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And net 0 can include petrochemicals.

Maybe at some point in the future when carbon capture is a viable technology. But we're already at the point where "we'll deal with it later" is not a good enough solution.

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