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[–] Etterra 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Justified in universe, possibly. Good? No, they're fucking evil on a good day. But that's the point. Sure they're evil, but are they the most evil? No. The entire 40K universe runs on Gray and black morality; there's no such thing as good there.

[–] Ptsf 11 points 1 week ago

There is such thing as good! It's just locked up in grandfather nurgles closet being used to test the latest and greatest plagues and sicknesses before they're welcomed upon a unprepared galaxy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Then why are those posts claiming they are good?

[–] Shapillon 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As is the person claiming there is no good in 40k.

[–] Shapillon 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There is good in 40K but imho it's very rarely present in the power structures.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Good thing no one said a good faction then!

But they exist anyways. Eldar and Votann, die mad about it, monkeighs.

[–] Shapillon 2 points 5 days ago

Oh yeah, and I'm still kinda sad about the Tau becoming mind controlling assholes and the chaos gods shifting from neutral forces of the universe toward evil deities

[–] Kimano 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean there is an argument, whether you agree with it or not, for moral relativism, and in that case I certainly would say that in-universe, a moral relativist would consider the imperium the good guys.

[–] AEsheron 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is an argument, but I don't think it's convincing. The single best way to cripple their most deadly foe (so far) is to be less evil and make everyone's lives less shit. They could hamstring chaos by simply ceasing their eternal crusade and focusing on improving the average peon's life. The Imperium as a state only exists because of a "well-intentioned" checks notes.... galactic crusade of conquest and omnicide against any non-human. In pretty much any other media they are unambiguously the bad guys, having other bad guys to fight doesn't change that. They are literally a characture of every evil space empire. We just get fed so much propaganda that it starts to work a little.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

It is a deliberate comment on the nature of fascism. First you call the entire world your enemy, attack, and then claim oppression and justification when they defend themselves.