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Hi, Once in a while I try to clean up my tabs. First thing I do is use "merge all windows" to put all tabs into one window.

This often causes a memory clog and firefox get stuck in this state for 10-20 minutes

I have recorded one such instance.

I have tried using the "discard all tabs" addon, unfortunately, it is also getting frozen by the memory clog.

Sometimes I will just reboot my PC as that is faster.

Unfortunately, killing firefox this way, does not save the new tab order, so when I start firefox again, it will have 20+ windows open, which I again, merge all pages and then it clogs again !

So far the only solution I have found is just wait the 20 minutes.

Once the "memory clog" is passed, it runs just fine.

I would like better control over tab discard. and maybe some way of limitting bloat. For instance, I would rather keep a lower number of undiscarded youtube that as they seem to be insanely bloated.

In other cases, for most website I would like to never discard the contents.

In my ideal world, I would like the tabs to get frozen and saved to disk permanently, rather than assuming discard tabs can be reloaded. As if the websites were going to exist forever and discarding a tab is like cleaning a cache.

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[–] tyler@programming.dev 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ff literally was designed for this. It has had a significant number of bug reports over the years that improved this exact thing, opening thousands of tabs. That’s not the problem (I also have thousands of tabs open). If instead you had operated under the assumption that that wasn’t the problem maybe you could have helped OP find the actual problem, which I bet is probably that they disabled swap mem or the extension they’re using isn’t written well.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have to ask, how does one even manage thousands of open tabs?

Like how do you find the 1 in 1756 tabs that you are looking for?

Excuse me for thinking that that is an insane way to work and there is no way it can be productive. Like if you have a thousand open at any given moment, what are they all. What are you doing that warrants this? What’s wrong with bookmarks.

I think the consensus here has been clear in that you guys are in the minority of people. And that’s on Lemmy where we skew tech literate and would mostly be power users. I just can’t see how it can be productive.

Not calling you out here. Like I really need to know your workflow with some examples of the why?

[–] tyler@programming.dev 0 points 6 months ago

You have different windows, different Multi-account containers. And if you type in something into your address bar it will just automatically jump to an open tab if you already have it open. No need to perform another search and find it. It's not hard to maintain this many tabs. Just like it's not hard to know where stuff is in your house. You keep the tools and cars in the garage, the yard equipment in the shed etc. You have thousands of items in your house or apartment, you don't have trouble keeping those separated do you? Unless you're one of those people that just tosses stuff as soon as they don't need it anymore, but I don't think that's the majority of people, at least not from talking to my therapist it isn't.

And it's not about being productive. Like, if I have one window open it might be for the research for a thing I want to buy, for example we're thinking about getting starlink for camping. So I have a window open with like 50 fucking tabs because choosing a powersupply, figuring out the calculations for how much wattage I'm going to be using, etc. I need all those open. I mean I could move that into an obsidian doc, but that's a hell of a lot of stuff to write down for something I only need to research and buy once. And then it gets left open because I already did the research and it's much easier to find if I have to step away to do something else, or I put off the research for a week since we're not camping yet.

The same goes for work stuff. We're testing stuff in salesforce and I have 10 tabs open for every test because you have to verify every single field of data I'm pushing from the backend into salesforce.

But it's not like I'm even noticing the 950+ tabs that are open. I don't have that window open. I use sidebery so I can see all the tabs in my window with their full names at a glance (here's an example of the current window where I've been responding to lemmy comments.

And a lot of the times I open an article to read, then someone messages me to help them, I jump over to help them, and then I come back to the article in a week. Or two weeks. Or three months. And then after I'm finished with it I close it. But I'm not gonna bookmark that. Bookmarks are for stuff you keep coming back to. Managing bookmarks in a browser isn't like managing a bookmark in a book you're reading. Deleting them is harder, filing them is harder, etc.