Try to find a landrace. Or something with lineage you can actually trace. Everything (exaggeration, you can still find landraces and some classic strains but they are few and far between) now is hybridized to shit, there's ruderalis in everything (not even on purpose, but there is), and there are a LOT of shitty "breeders" chucking pollen to make a quick buck.

Try to find someone who's honest about their genetics (again, obviously some people are but most people aren't).

And honestly I'm on board with your last point. I don't even think we disagree with each other, it's definitely not as bad as bananas, we're just looking at it from different perspectives.

How are you defining stability? If you get more than one pheno in a pack, it's unstable IMO. And there are VERY few breeders that you only get one pheno in a pack.

[–] Dasus 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Genotype stability.

"Everything's been hybridised to shit and everything has ruderalis in it"

Well you're clearly exaggerating. But yes, pretty much all strains are hybrids. And why wouldn't they be? Getting growth properties from indica is almost a must since who the hell has the space to grow an actual sativa, like a three meter tall tree with airy specks for buds.

This is what "bud" looked like in the 70's, and that probably explains why it used to more commonly known as "weed" than "bud".

So yeah, the variety and quality of the strains we have is nothing short of amazing.

[–] bizzle 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I literally said I was exaggerating so yes I'm glad you picked up on that. I still don't know what you mean by stability, you're not explaining that very effectively. And plenty of guys have room for a 12 foot plant that isn't even that big.

[–] Dasus -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's ridiculous to argue that "there's ruderalis in everything" when seedbanks still have genomes that have been going on since before autoflowers were even a thing.

"Plenty of guys have room for a 12 foot plant"

Why are you using bodyparts to measure things? And no, most people don't have room for plants which exceed room height, make little to no bud and a ton of waste.

Did you skip over the image I linked? That's cannabis 50 years ago. I myself am familiar with what's happened over the last 20 years.

Excluding the tendency of seed banks to stop selling regular seeds so as to protect their genomes, I honestly don't know what about is in any way "a travesty."

[–] bizzle 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not going to argue with you anymore because I'm not having fun or learning anything.

[–] Dasus -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure you learned why the favoured word for cannabis shifted from "weed" to "bud".

Because due to cannabis growing culture, actual buds started appearing on the plants. I much prefer the "ruined hybrids (all of which have ruderalis in them)" which grow actual colas than trying to fit a badly growing sativa inside when it requires like double the heigh of a normal room, and still won't make actual colas.

The fact that you have access to cannabis rn is very likely because of the amazing cannabis industry we have.

Are there shit seed banks? Sure.

Is it all of them? Fuck no. Not even a majority, or even a significant minority.

[–] SchmidtGenetics 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dude, go have a bowl and chill out, weed stopped being used because the war on drugs lost. They used “weed” and “hippies” to label an entire subset of people and vilify them.

The plants always been called cannabis, marijuana and weed is fucking politics.

[–] Dasus -1 points 6 months ago

Laws don't dictate the use of language, people do.

It just so happens that when you don't have buds, it's hard to find instances in which to use "bud", and because even when I started, you needed to make sure it's actually bud, not just some trim, grass, weed.

Marijuana is the loaded term. Cannabis is a scientific one.