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Israel doesn't have the right to exist (lemmy.ml)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ethnostates are bad, and right now we have a fascist ethno state destroying people.

[–] zloubida -3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Israel is a lot of things, but not an ethnostate. Falashas and Sefardim aren't white, and they're recognized as citizens as much as Ashkenazim, at least legally (there is racism between Jews in Israel too, but it's the case everywhere).

I don't understand why Israel is the only criminal State in the world that progressive people want totally destroyed. Russia, Iran, Syria, … are imperialist criminal states too, and progressive people “only” want their government changed. I want the fascist government of Israel overthrown, but I have no right to call for the destruction of the country itself. The only difference is Judaism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Israel is an ethno-state centered around Jewish identity. That is the literal entire point.

Israel is not the only fascist state that should he totally destroyed, of course others should be. The US is probably the biggest cause of conflict and exploitation worldwide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think you could argue this before the passage of the Nation State Law of 2018. But now it's enshrined in law that the state exists to privilege Jews specifically and selectively. That's really putting it all in black and white.

Also I get asked about why I didn't criticize China or Russia or Iran etc, and the reasons are simple:

I do
my tax dollars didn't support their misdeeds and
I'm Jewish, so I have a huge investment in Israel's actions. They insist that I be judged by their actions, so now I have to get involved. Also, I actually like Israel. I'd like it to be a liberal, multi ethnic democracy and not just another Middle Eastern martial theocracy with a Jewish twist.

[–] zloubida 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think you didn't understood me. I'm criticizing Israel. It's a criminal state.I just say that to criticize Israel and saying that Israel.shouldn't exist are two different things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Oh, I see. Thank you for the clarification.