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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Thanks for providing a direct link to the Paizo post; I'm not a big fan of RL.

The new champion seems cool. Finally they won't be locked in by alignment on top of the actual oath that they follow. Seems a bit more similar to a 5e Paladin now. But Paizo is still stuck on forcing certain kinds of character to be "holy" and "unholy", which is still very limiting. I wish they would open their minds a bit more.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, they are religious defenders. Knights Templar and all that. That's the core concept and fantasy they're aiming for.

Guardian Sorcerer or Guardian Oracle or something probably fits other concepts better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They don't need to be that though. Honestly for all of 5e's flaws, I think one thing it does far better is that there is a clear distinction between Clerics and Paladins. Clerics get their power from religion, Paladins get their power from swearing an oath. Religion doesn't need to be a part of it at all.

Like, if you told me there was a class called "champion" in Pathfinder and I knew nothing else about that class, I would assume it's the champion of a cause, not of a religion.

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