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[–] iopq 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

WTF on the part of Mozilla

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I suspect this was a "do it or we'll categorize Mozilla products as malicious software" situations. But some transparency from Mozilla would be nice.

[–] iopq 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They should tell Russia to eat a dick. Remember when Google did that to China? I thought it was very cool of them

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately, the time when they seemed cool is long gone

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

@iopq @neuracnu Since when Google becomes your moral guidance? The company literally provided AI assistance to the genocide of tens of thousands of people, it spies on everyone on this planet, and willingly offer those info to the US government at request.

[–] hswolf 8 points 4 months ago

Well, he mentioned a single action taken by them, not that the companyn is their moral guidance and compass.

A broken clock is right twice a day after all.

[–] iopq 1 points 4 months ago

No, they were cool when their motto was don't be evil. It is no longer their motto. That was the canary

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Let them. If everyone refuses to comply the authoritarian control of the Russian government over its people will crumble a little.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If everyone

I think, that's the problem...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well at the very least they could of just said no. I don't think they have a Russian office and if they did they probably should get out of Russia

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would expect Russia to just ban downloads of Firefox, if they said no. Like, why would Russia not do that? Chrome, Edge, Safari etc. will presumably bend over backwards quite readily. As in, it would be a disservice to the Russian people to get Firefox banned over this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

The Russian government is a disservice to the Russian people. However, I do not think Mozilla should go along with the collapse of any form of democracy.

Russia is either exactly like China at this point or it will be like China soon. US companies shouldn't deal with authoritarian governments. I also dislike that Cisco is a big Chinese government contractor.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

because it's either do that or block all of firefox from existing in russia.

besides it's not really a big deal since firefox can install extensions outside of mozilla add-ons. the intercept is just sensational trash.

[–] Rose 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I disagree with that.

Surely there is someone, somewhere who is unable or deterred from using Instagram in Russia because of the ban.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

firefox can install extensions outside of mozilla add-ons

release builds cannot and all extensions not signed by Mozilla will refuse to install

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The addons on the store are signed and you can install them from an xpi file in regular Firefox.

Try it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

On mobile that may be the case, but on desktop you can definitely install extensions not signed by Mozilla

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

only until restart.
to load unsigned extensions persistently, you must use nightly or developer edition and enable a hidden config flag.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Without a nightly or dev version I'm running bypass paywalls clean from github, persistently on the latest Firefox desktop release. I do not believe it's signed by Mozilla, but I could be wrong

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Only reasonable explanation I can come up with is that I installed it before this requirement was made and my install is grandfathered in