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Please stop reporting all OF models as spam. If a post is off-topic, report is as off-topic. If community rules forbid OF models from posting, report that. If a user is flooding a sub with multiple posts a day in a row, that's a legit report as well.

Otherwise a post by an OF model is not in and of itself spam, even if it is made by a female with the temerity to control her own sexuality.

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[–] neonfire 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's advertising. I don't care for advertising. It's like if all food subs were posts by Kraft, Taco Bell, Lays, Ben & Jerry's, etc.

If people want to advertise, that's fine, there are avenues for that. r/gonewild got ruined by being filled to the brim with OF ads. Other communities had to be made to recreate the space that gonewild used to be.

the basis for r/gonewild was a place for REDDITORS to "go wild", not for women who are paid to do so, to then create a reddit account so they can have a place to advertise their product (their photos and videos) for free.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If gonewild wants to restrict OF posts, that's fine. Then it becomes a violation of community rules. That's really a debate for the mods and posters in gonewild. The mere fact that someone has an OF is not grounds for reporting.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

There might be a need to handle the cross-community spammers on an instance or Fediverse wide level though, in particular the ones who post to any porn community with the same title and picture regardless of the picture/title being on topic for that community.

[–] mean_bean279 -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

r/Gonewild has specific rules about no OF posters. To the point that even if your post doesn’t mention OF, but you have one linked in your profile you get banned.

It made GW worse. Not just because OF creators have better, higher quality content that fits that sub, but also because as I pointed out once to them it was a dumb idea to block people who in most cases of OF creators don’t even monetize, or only do custom content. Otherwise the account is free to follow. Which is an important differentiation since diversifying where you post and where people can find you is a major thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is it worse? It's back to it's roots and literally back to the reason for the sub in the first place. You know how many "free" OF pages consist of spam about special videos and offers? I'd say practically every single one.

as far as higher better quality, I'd disagree. There's something special about seeing someone who you think you could have a chance with. Who could be that quiet coworker down the hall, or a nurse you've seen. What if it's your friend's hot older sister you always had a crush on? Those women might not have been egirls, or would ever have the time, or money to spend on good lighting and photo editing. They're regular fucking people, just trying to get off, not get paid.

Wanting to spread your product around to get people to pay for it is called advertising. It's nothing new.

[–] mean_bean279 1 points 1 year ago

I can assure you none of those things is true.

First off, by pushing out OF creators all it did was make it so that an underground network was created on there instead. So the person you were seeing would have no mention of OF but would be a bot account meant to spam you with messages. It also created an issue where we saw so much damn editing of pictures and people posting others content to get around the rules. Hell, half of the posts were basically OF creators who made a second GW dedicated account that didn’t mention it but was designed to funnel views to their main.

Also, in the world of posting online it all becomes advertising. Even if not for money it’s all about putting yourself out there and getting validation, which requires people interacting with your post, which requires you to effectively advertise by posting certain content, doing things at certain times and coming up with fun titles. If you didn’t want advertising and a fair system to see all people then either having one GW account that posts only the content of the sub, or two having a system where everyone posts with the same title. The metrics show dumb titles work and it’s why if you scroll GW for any length of time you’ll notice that the same rehashed titles get used over and over.

Lastly, the people with OF accounts are also regular people, and often just trying to get off as well.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren’t just advertising though, they are also contributing. A better analogy is food companies going to a food convention and giving out free food. The site would be a lot quieter without their contribution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

even with the food subs comparison the food companies would be "contributing" too, but with self-serving memes that are really just ads. See twitter for a solid example.