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Where did AfD voters come from, and where did they go? (www.tagesschau.de)
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Even more voter movement charts.

Bonus: "Do you think Germany's economic situation is good or bad?"

not even asking about personal economic conditions, just the overall state there's a massive fucking difference in perception.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not to speculate too much but according to court records, Beate Zschäpe browsed Greenpeace news before setting the camper ablaze.

Where the fuck did you get that nonsense?

The German far-right has never been anti-environmentalist as such, much to the contrary: On the first Green party convention there were a lot of people who were of the opinion that not enough is being done for the German forest. Until they got kicked out with prejudice. It's the centre-right which likes to bury nuclear waste in leaky barrels in leaky salt mines.

This is also bullshit. The AfD literally does not believe in climate change and wants to get the coal industry running again. The Greens are pretty much the number 1 enemy of the far right in Germany and everyone caring for the environment is seen as a menace, because the whole topic kinda became a left leaning political topic somehow (likely due to US politics).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Where the fuck did you get that nonsense?

Public TV. Some documentary about the whole insanity that happened that day.

The AfD literally does not believe in climate change and wants to get the coal industry running again.

I never said anything to the contrary... well I guess I should've been more specific: Nazis were never anti-environmentalist as such. I think AfD climate denialism roots in their neoliberal history, when Nazis took over they didn't change it because they're not planning on doing anything in their programme once in power, anyway, and it's politically convenient.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Public TV.

In Russia?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Germany. Greenpeace was quite prominent in her browser history. She's a murderous fascist assclown doesn't mean she doesn't care about the whales, and whatever. Hitler loved dogs. How is this surprising or unbelievable to you.

...and, ok, fine, I'll get you a source. Not the original documentary (probably depublished), have a taz article:

  1. November 2011: Uwe Mundlos und Uwe Böhnhardt liegen tot in einem Wohnmobil in Eisenach. Das Ende der Terrorzelle NSU, nach dreizehn Jahren. 181 Kilometer östlich, in der Frühlingsstraße 26 in Zwickau-Weißenborn, sucht die Benutzerin „Liese“ am Computer nach Nachrichten. „Liese“ ist einer der Alias-Namen von Beate Zschäpe. Wie sie vom Tod ihrer Kumpanen erfährt, ist immer noch unklar. Aber irgendwie muss sie es mitbekommen haben. Nun flieht sie. Kurz vorher tippt „Liese“ noch einen Satz in das Suchfeld des Internetbrowsers: „wohin kann ich sicher spenden“. Sie geht auf Seiten der Diakonie, eines Tierheims, von Greenpeace.

She set her apartment ablaze, not the camper with the other two dead Nazis inside, I misremembered that one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

lmao So we went from "browsing Greenpeace news" to "she was visiting a website of an animal shelter". And no, Hitler did not love dogs. You're just continuing to spew far right propaganda bullshit here to push a narrative.

Blondi played a role in Nazi propaganda by portraying Hitler as an animal lover. Dogs like Blondi were coveted as "germanische Urhunde", being close to the wolf, and became very fashionable during the Nazi era. On 29 April 1945, one day before his death, Hitler expressed doubts about the cyanide capsules he had received through Heinrich Himmler's SS. To verify the capsules' potency, Hitler ordered Dr. Werner Haase to test one on Blondi, who died as a result.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blondi

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

lmao So we went from “browsing Greenpeace news” to “she was visiting a website of an animal shelter”.

No, she went to Greenpeace. She also went to one for an animal shelter. Also, what I linked to is a mere corroborating source.