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[–] [email protected] 128 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oracle is a law firm with a large IT department.

They've been giving us shit because they "see downloads from our IP addresses". It's an absolute shake-down operation. They let anybody download their poisoned jvm for free and then tell your company that they now owe them a fortune.

[–] thesporkeffect 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's time for corporate IT to block that download

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We'd love to but we do have some legitimate needs for it since Oracle software requires their jvm. It's a massive pain in the ass.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Openjdk: https://openjdk.org/

Or for people that use jre or want installers: https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html

We just went through all of this and we just switched to openjdk without issues.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You didn't seem to understand. Oracle only supports their own jvm when running their software that uses Java (e.g. weblogic).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I know it may not be an easy question to answer, but does your company really owe them money? I’m guessing that their other software that uses their JVM also has a license, so they should be more clear about the company having to license out the JVM in order to use it. This sounds like a scam that comes packaged along with some other software.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Oh - sorry, Oracle offers a free "entitlement" to use the JVM when used with their software if it's required. We don't pay extra for the Oracle JVM.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not about functionality. When you're paying for licensing and support you need to use supported versions of things. If you call up about an issue with the database and you're running an unsupported os or Java version they hang up on you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Sorry forgot about support. You are right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

What's hilarious is that the AdoptOpenJDK project (now called Adoptium) managed to create a better UI than Oracle ever had for downloads.