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[–] [email protected] 120 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I'm from Germany and the Nazis were 2nd strongest Power.

And they were even 1st strongest Power in the entire old GDR.

Would not call that “beating” yet. And maybe I'm not up-to-date about the Netherlands, but my latest info there was that the Far Right also won many votes again.

So still really shit times. When looking on the German Nazis they grow and grow.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

And spread. We have so many in our part of Canada. It's insane.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Let's not forget that CDU won by a very small difference to AFD. And it's not exactly like CDU is super progressive man. We are in a timeline where we are celebrating that CDU won.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Double is a small difference?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ok I might have overestimated the German result [cries in Saxony]. Isn't it 23,7 vs 15,9? That's not double though, more like 50%.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

CDU/CSU had 30% of votes vs 15.9% for AfD

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, I forgot to account for CSU

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

In the Netherlands most far right seats were shuffled between FVD (4 to 0) and PVV (1 to 6/7). Can't explain their final seat, but I guess it might have to do with there being more this time around? We did have a couple progressive parties gain a little (D66 +1, Volt +2), but over all right/left/far right are said to have roughly retained their size compared to last elections.

This makes PVV the second biggest list in NL, with GL/PvdA (Green/socialist left alliance) being first at 8 seats. Thing is, while GL/PvdA is collaborating in our national politics as basically one party, they're expected to join the European factions they're already a part of, separating them into 2× 4 seats. They will (and have been) collaborate and align their votes in Parliament and believe such collaboration might be the way forward on a European level as well.

Because our media loves for there to be a heated fight, this is being interpreted as a victory for both PVV and GL/PvdA depending on who you ask