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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    executable as a filesystem attribute

    This already exists. It's labeled as "Traverse folder / execute file" in the UI.

    NTFS permissions are also more powerful than the default Linux permission system. Instead of just being able to define permissions for a single user and single group, you can define them for an arbitrary number of users and groups.

    I say "default Linux permission system" because you can actually use ACLs on Linux (getfacl and setfacl commands), they're just not used by default. They used to be common in businesses and schools, but these days everyone seems to store their files "in the cloud" and the permissions are managed there instead.

    curated app repos

    This is what the Windows store is supposed to be. There's also WinGet, but I'm not sure if it's curated.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    NTFS permissions are just needlessly complicated and convoluted and create more problems than they solve for desktop use. They're more for server use, but then again, so are ACLs on Linux. If Windows would just use simple permissions like Linux does, it'd be a hell of a lot better.

    The Windows store is also a sandboxed, heavily restricted pile of trash you can't even get at for most of its apps. And Winget has so many issues from its install scripts not working right to just being outright broken that it's not worth using. Even flatpak installs can be easily modified and used normally.

    The excuses for using obsolete Windows continues by its paid shills and brainwashed users. Give it up.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    The Windows store is also a sandboxed, heavily restricted pile of trash you can't even get at for most of its apps.

    They changed that around the tine Windows 11 was released. Regular Win32 apps can be listed in there.

    NTFS permissions are just needlessly complicated and convoluted and create more problems than they solve for desktop use.

    What's an example of a problem they create?

    If Windows would just use simple permissions like Linux does

    I don't think using an antiquated permission system from the 1970s is the solution to anything. Being able to set permissions for only a single user and single group is very limiting, especially when there's background processes that run as other users. There's a reason later revisions of POSIX added ACLs.

    The excuses for using obsolete Windows continues by its paid shills and brainwashed users.

    lol I'm not a paid shill nor a brainwashed user; I just see pros and cons for all operating systems. Linux-based OSes do some things better, and Windows-based OSes do other things better. Even MacOS has its pros.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

    antiquated permission system from the 1970s

    Sorry, but it just works and is much simpler, direct, and useful for desktop systems than the rat's nest that is NTFS permissions that was created for big business use with several groups of people with different access needs even among the groups instead of just simple, effective permissions that works with desktops and regular servers.

    Supporting Microsoft and Windows now is just an admission that you have ignored all of the bad decisions, laughable security, bad engineering, and marketing over technology trash Microsoft has delivered since day one. It's time to abandon Windows and use a real OS. There is no longer a "pro" for Windows now that they're trying to screw over their users from every single direction.