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The Cloudflare Poison (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Daily reminder that sites "protected" by cloudflare are effectively MITM attacks. HTTPS is now even more worthless. Cloudflare can see everything. this is a known fact and not a theory.

And if you think Cloudflare aren't being tapped by the NSA, you're sadly sadly naive.

All the "privacy respecting" sites use it too. So remember, as soon as you see that cloudflare portal page, you can assume that everything you plug into the site is property of NSA Inc. Trust no one, and do not trust code being served to you over the web if it comes through CF, there is no way to know what they've modified.

Edit: good info link below https://serverfault.com/questions/662946/does-cloudflare-know-the-decrypted-content-when-using-a-https-connection

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

If a substantiated news article came out showing that Cloudflare shared SSL keys or otherwise gave direct access to various intelligence agencies without a court order, that would essentially destroy the company. So they certainly aren't doing that.

excuse me, what?? The Snowden documents came out showing all these companies literally giving over all their data to the NSA like it was water from a spring, and they are all still in business. AT&T, facebook, google, microsoft, dropbox, etc. Yet you claim somehow cloudflare would be destroyed?? This isnt even funny bro.

more recently, Hetzner was showed to have given backdoor access to the feds, yet people still buy VPSs from them, and in fact, 20% of TOR guard nodes are sitting on their infra RIGHT NOW!

Case in point: people using such companies either don't care or are really ignorant or stupid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

isn't the US law so that companies need to cooperate with the alphabet boys? there's no "safe" place

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

not in the US anyway

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can you give a source on the Hetzner claim? I'm curious and didn't find anything online

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

just search hetzner police backdoor. it's all over the place. unless you're using google and google censored it. idk, i dont use google.