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The Cloudflare Poison (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Daily reminder that sites "protected" by cloudflare are effectively MITM attacks. HTTPS is now even more worthless. Cloudflare can see everything. this is a known fact and not a theory.

And if you think Cloudflare aren't being tapped by the NSA, you're sadly sadly naive.

All the "privacy respecting" sites use it too. So remember, as soon as you see that cloudflare portal page, you can assume that everything you plug into the site is property of NSA Inc. Trust no one, and do not trust code being served to you over the web if it comes through CF, there is no way to know what they've modified.

Edit: good info link below https://serverfault.com/questions/662946/does-cloudflare-know-the-decrypted-content-when-using-a-https-connection

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks so much. Now I have another way to avoid my family this weekend 🤣🤣

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Remember not to compromise security in favor of privacy. To me they're both important, but security wins every time.

Remember that services directly accessible over tunnels, whether from cloudflare or frp or ngrok or whatever, are directly accessible over the internet. So if any of those various self-hosted services have a remote vulnerability, and EVERYTHING does sooner or later, you will be exposed. This is why I personally WG VPN to my home LAN rather than exposing most of my stuff via any sort of tunnel. Tailscale is another option I often recommend.

I do use CF tunnels for specific purposes; Home Assistant Google Home integration for example, but I secure that via their "zero trust" authentication by validating incoming IP ranges, so only Google can reach the tunnel in the first place, everybody else is stopped by Cloudflare. For other services with human users, I have them authenticate via github or google oauth first. I also run all services accessible by the internet by any means on a restricted VLAN firewalled off from the rest of my LAN.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Agreed. I have a lot of homework to do before I even know which way to leap to.