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Ok, but you know there's a difference, right? One is prohibiting journalists from writing stories critical of the state, and the other is probibiting a foreign state from owning a communication platform. Those things are obviously not the same, and if you're insisting that they are, one can only conclude that your motivations are insincere and your arguments serve an agenda.
Chinese journalists are entirely free to come to America and report on the worst atrocities the US has ever committed. Visitors to China aren't allowed to mention the Tiananman Square massacre. Like at all. Forget publishing an article, police will question you if you take too many pictures in the square.
Solid argument. I was agreeing with OP coz I have a tendency for extremism, and if you take banning tiktok as a starting point in the supposed “land of the free” , to the extreme, at some point you become like China too. But for now, they are far from there. I still disagree with banning TikTok; “practice what you preach”
Oh, I think banning TikTok is stupid and little more than political theater by out of touch septuagenarian oligarchs. And I agree that the same idiots would march us all down a path towards fascism, if we go along willingly.
I just take exception to the idea that they are in any way relatable.
One thing to note is that a lot of US citizens do not even acknowledge that their country’s economy runs off of war; it’s like they don’t need to go “deny Tiananmen Square”; they just go full idiocracy. Also they mostly kill non-US citizens, so again, not the perfect analogy but it’s like: we don’t need to deny anything, we just make the avg Joe dumb enough to not even care.
I don't think you're wrong, but again that's not at all the same as totalitarianism. We can fight that with words, with education, with non-violence. It's iterative, and we can course-correct as we progress into the future. It's messy, and often goes in the wrong direction, but it's still ours.