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[–] Nosavingthrow 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I felt neutral towards Jewish folks prior to the recent gencocide being carried out by Israel. The response by Jewish activists to condemn genocide has shifted my feelings to neutral-positive. You're telling me Orthodox Jews living in Israel oppose zionism and are harrassed by Israeli fascists? Sounds like a people with a commendable spirit and culture to me.

[–] PugJesus 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You’re telling me Orthodox Jews living in Israel oppose zionism and are harrassed by Israeli fascists? Sounds like a people with a commendable spirit and culture to me.

You're thinking of the ultra-Orthodox Haredi. And they're... not pleasant people.

[–] Nosavingthrow 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even the unpleasant ones oppose mass murder, you say?

[–] PugJesus 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Oppose mass murder" is a strong term. "Think Israel is an illegitimate state because of some theological stuff about it Not Being Time Yet(tm) but hate non-Jewish minorities and don't give a fig for dead Palestinians except insofar as the ongoing war might strip them of their long-standing exemption from Israeli military service"

[–] Nosavingthrow 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to be honest with you, I don't really care what motivates them or really about the specific details you've decided I'm talking about. They don't have insitutional power in Israel, and the Orthodox Jews I saw being harrassed on video were flying palestinian flags. The point I was getting at is thay Jews who oppose Zionism and colonialism are a credit to their people.

[–] PugJesus 1 points 4 months ago

They don’t have insitutional power in Israel,

The Ultra-Orthodox parties are literally part of the current ruling coalition dedicated to Palestinian genocide.