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[–] WarlockLawyer 59 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And we got Al Capone on tax evasion instead of murder as well. So what?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Judge Meachum is explicitly on record saying he doesn't want to put Trump in prison.

Even past that, "we got Capone on tax evasion" is a more oblique way of saying "the local and state governments were too corrupt to successfully prosecute Capone, so we needed a federal department to get involved".

I would say the Capone case is ALSO a classic example of the deep flaws in the American justice system. Its just more focused on how wealthy crooks can manipulate local prosecutions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought he just said he didn't want to put Trump in jail for contempt?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

On Trump's tenth instance of contempt he said that he didn't want Trump to go to prison. I suspect the judge will issue the maximum fine allowed and no jail time.

[–] SkyezOpen 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I assume he meant jail for contempt, not no jail at all.

Though jailing trump will 100% put the judge's life in danger.

[–] MotoAsh 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

and he is a coward that will put his own life above justice. Some farce of a "judge" he is when justice does not rule him... This country is beyond pathetic.

[–] SkyezOpen 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

These are financial crimes and Trump is facing a max of 4 years, and jail time isn't even certain even if it wasn't trump.

[–] MotoAsh 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Don't worry, the judges on the more severe cases will also chicken out.

IMO, he should see jail time for the significance of the consequences of the crime. Are the institutions that make the country sacred or not? If so, tampering with and harming them should always go for the max penalty.

Fixing books? Don't really care that much. Tampering with elections in an effort to become a despot? He SHOULD be hanging...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The judges in cases against the mafia didn't chicken out, and those guys killed whoever they could get in their crosshairs. have at least a bit of faith in judges (outside of SCOTUS and Cannon - for obvious reasons), most of them are doing their jobs, just like the DA that got that conviction (lots of people said that he wouldn't get a conviction with THAT case too)

[–] MotoAsh 3 points 5 months ago

You ask me to have faith in judges except for the most powerful ones and some other cherrypicks ... yeaaahhh when you have to draw such qualifications... the system is completely fucked.

[–] SkyezOpen 1 points 5 months ago

Well, the judge in THAT case is full maga, so unless the prosecutor gets his shit together and gets her removed from the case, or more correctly, the bench, we're pretty screwed there.

[–] Linkerbaan 1 points 5 months ago

Trump didn't do the real crimes like being black and smoking pot.

[–] HighElfMage 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jailing someone in the middle of a trial is a hugely disruptive delay. But now the trial is over, and the judge gets to count all ten counts of contempt (so far!) against Trump during sentencing. Trump has also been doing everything that a repentant defendant should not be doing, so even though it's his first offense, he might get some actual jail time. Not the max, but maybe a few months. Especially if he violates the gag order and goes after the judge of his family again. Or the jurors.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 5 months ago

even though it’s his first offense, he might get some actual jail time

I will give 2:1 odds up to $1000 that he gets no jail time.