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[–] bigschnitz 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If you just look at numbers maybe, we can see from Russia (large navy) vs Ukraine (no navy) that there are serious disadvantages when waging a war of attrition, even with relatively near distances and supply lines.

The Israeli navy has no meaningful capability control Norwegian waters and they would be insane to try.

[–] BarbecueCowboy 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I've mentioned at least a few times that this theoretical would require both sides being dedicated to the conflict and no outside interference, with that I don't see how that matters as both sides would have that problem to overcome.

Also, Ukraine does have a Navy. When you compare the actual ships to the Russian Navy or even just the Black Sea Fleet, it is almost a rounding error, but they still have a few dozen small ships floating around out there. The Ukrainian Navy still had 15,000 personnel as of 2022, but I'd guess that things likely have not been going great for them lately, not sure where that's at now. I haven't heard of any successful engagements using the few boats left, but they are very outclassed and I'd imagine outnumbered. Does exist though, several naval bases, and they are still fighting.