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[–] ghariksforge 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It also makes you realize that all this pronoun craziness is silly and unimportant. There are much more important things demanding our attention. Pronoun battles are a first world problem.

[–] jpeps 16 points 1 year ago

It should be unimportant, but some people kick up such a fuss about having to learn new things or changing what they claim is 'natural' that it is important to a lot of people. Gender is both a social construct, and a very real thing that does warrant discussion.

[–] whenigrowup356 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fight over pronouns is just the first step in "othering" trans people. It helps to reinforce the idea that they're strange, not like you, not traditional, not natural.

The next steps are to deny healthcare, access to equal treatment from discrimination, things like that. There are leaders in the USA making statements that transgenderism should be "eradicated."

If you aren't dealing with shit like this in your area, I'm genuinely happy for you and I hope this never comes near you. But for lots of people, it's quite a bit more serious than a first world problem.

[–] ghariksforge 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not serious at all. This is a typical first world problem.

This is a world full of war, disease and poverty. There are more important problems than pronouns.

[–] whenigrowup356 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As I said, the pronoun conversation isn't really about pronouns. It's about tribalism and scapegoating.

How much time did you spend thinking about pronouns or trans people before gay and lesbian relationships began to be normalized and legalized in The West?

Trans people have a new target on their backs because most people don't know someone who is trans and thus don't understand them. They're a scapegoat for right-wing groups to organize and fight against because they lost the ability to be quite so open with their homophobia.

Trans people are, according to some studies, as high as 4 times as likely to be victims of sexual assault and 3.5 times as likely to commit suicide.

Again, this is serious. Trans lives matter, Period.

[–] ghariksforge 2 points 1 year ago

It's not as serious as 99% of the stuff going on in this world.

This whole pronoun nonsense is a great way to distract society from the real problems. Better have people argue over pronouns than to discuss inequality or war.

[–] Mighty 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PREACH! trans people are being killed for existing. and this priviledged person is all like "dOn'T yOu hAvE rEaL pRoBlEmS?!"

[–] whenigrowup356 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks. Some people really don't get it so I try to communicate in good faith on this issue but damn does it feel like banging your head into a brick wall sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it’s so silly and unimportant why do people bitch and moan about using the pronouns someone feels comfortable with?

[–] shiftymccool 0 points 1 year ago

I say nearly this same thing, which is probably similar to what every generation says about the next one. Wait until they "grow up" and find out what real problems are. Your pronoun won't mean much if you lose your job and have to figure out how to pay the mortgage and for groceries before your kids starve.