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Scarlett Johansson denied OpenAI the right to use her voice. They used it anyway. (boingboing.net)

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[–] Grimy 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You don't need an admission of guilt to lose in court.

Currently even if they used voice clips to train a model on her voice it wouldn't be illegal. That isn't currently the case, since they say they used an other actress that sounds like her anyways.

Does Taylor Swift deserve to own a whole spectrum of voice?

No, just like she doesn't deserve to own the four chord progressions that make up her songs. If she did, she could literally sue half of all pop music.

This is why none of this is copyrightable. There are too many people that have similar voices and too many songs that use similar chord progressions.

Your fantasy where this empowers small time artists is just that, a fantasy. If we push and they come out with new laws that make these things copyrightable, you just end up with corporations owning all of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Currently even if they used voice clips to train a model on her voice it wouldn't be illegal.

I think that's currently the point of contention....

That isn't currently the case, since they say they used an other actress that sounds like her anyways.

That's what they're claiming, but it's not like open AI doesn't have a pretty well documented history of lying.

No! Just like she doesn't deserve to own the four chord progressions that make up her songs.

There's a difference between common chord progressions and plagiarizing someone's voice and performance. You are the only person conflating the two.

This is why none of this is copyrightable. There are two many people that have similar voices

I think their intent is pretty clear. They didn't want a similar voice, they wanted her voice. After failing at getting her consent, they proceeded anyways.

and too many songs that use similar chord progressions.

There's actual precedent on how similar songs can be to each other without giving credit. Simple chord progressions aren't copyrightable, but how those chord progressions are performed are.

Your fantasy where this empowers small time artists is just that, a fantasy.

Lol, if they are able to plagiarize art from millionaires, what's the chance there's going to be any kind of protections for small artist?

If we push and they come out with new laws that make these things copyrightable, you just end up with corporations owning all of it.

We don't have to come out with laws banning chord progressions, that's just a strawman argument you erected yourself. We just need to apply the laws we currently have to AI companies. If Sony had tried to get her to dress like black widow and do a commercial and she refused. And if they then proceeded to hire an actress who looked like her, dressed the actress in a black skin tight suit, and gave her a red wig..... We'd be dealing with a hefty lawsuit, even if they claimed it wasn't supposed to be SJ.