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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We need to be doing both. Once the grid is fixed or close to it then we will need carbon capture to reverse the damage. It's either that or massive reforestation or using algae or something (liquid trees anyone?).

Pure reactionary xenophobia. Chinese thorium reactors are cutting edge, and we're adding degree points to the global average by not adopting it ASAP.

If they own the plant they could theoretically sabotage it. Would they in practice? No idea but so long as the USA believes they might they won't use Chinese technology.

Neither the USA or China are good regimes. To be honest I want to see them both either broken or re-formed.

Westinghouse aren't the only people in the USA doing nuclear research afaik. I believe the DOE national laboratory does research on fusion for example. There are private companies like NuScale also working on fission designs in the USA.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We need to be doing both.

In proportion to their value add. Enormous investments in a low yield long shot against minor investment in a sure thing is a bad strategy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not a long shot though. We already know this technology works as it has been tested on small scales.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We already know this technology works

Factually inaccurate

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fuel Cells Are Not the Problem, the Hydrogen Fuel Is

If you were familiar with the technology, you'd understand why it has failed to come to market for so long. You need enormous subsidies to sell vehicles and even then you cannot efficiently produce "Green H~2~"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We were talking about direct carbon capture in this thread. Hydrogen was a separate topic.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Carbon Capture costs are far higher than reducing emissions with each ton of carbon costing between $230 and $540.

Halting emissions is the most efficient method of reducing total emissions. Capture is extraordinarily expensive and inefficient, particularly when you're still using carbon-based infrastructure to power compressors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So just because it's expensive right now means we shouldn't do it or research it? Now you sound like the people advocating against renewables.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So just because it’s expensive right now

This isn't a "right now" issue. Its been an ongoing problem since the '90s. And yes, throwing 10x your investment in a working solution on a speculative technology for 35 years running is a bad idea.

Now you sound like the people advocating against renewables.

The O&G industry has been the primary promoter of fuel cell technology. They never deliver and they've had far more money and time to work on this problem than the nascent solar and wind industries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why do you keep changing the topic to hydrogen?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 7 months ago

Two different conversations.