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What is the cost of privacy? (self.privacy)

submitted 7 months ago by joat_mon to c/[email protected]

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I have been pro privacy and anti data harvesting for many years now, however it is becoming increasingly more difficult staying off some platforms. Mostly Meta.

Over the years I have convinced most of my friends and family to use Signal instead of WhatsApp. However, there are still chat groups that I am missing from, and trying to keep up to date with local events seems next to impossible without Facebook or Instagram.

Additionally, I am finding it more and more tiring to have the awkward "No I don't have WhatsApp. No I don't have Facebook either. Or Instagram, sorry. Do you want to try an app that you've never heard of to stay in contact with me?" every time I meet someone new.

I saddens me that it feels like the multi-billion dollar data harvesting companies are winning, but I no longer know if this is a hill that I'm willing to die on.

What are your thoughts on what we have to give up in our lives just to stay in control of our personal information?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It can be a bit annoying sometimes, but there are solutions for almost anything, like alternative clients and frontends. I also think it's important to remember that this is not an all-or-nothing situation. Every little bit of privacy you can preserve helps, even if you still have to use their services sometimes.

If your example is mostly about chat then Beeper might be a good option for you. The messages on FB and IG would still go through Meta, but at least you don't have to install their apps.

[–] joat_mon 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh I hadn't heard of Beeper. Thanks I'll look in to that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's not private, and could technically read and collect messages sent via e2ee services, FYI.

[–] joat_mon 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Good to know, thanks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you have an always-on-and-connected device then you can self-host their bridges. It preserves e2ee because messages are de- and reencrypted on your device, and it's relatively easy to set up.

[–] joat_mon 2 points 7 months ago

Thanks, I do run my own server so this is a possibility

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Man I got so excited about beeper but it just fails to log in to anything I try to set up. FB, sms, anything at all, it successfully logs me in and then hangs on the spinning wheel of death