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[–] rdca 16 points 6 months ago (22 children)

This is just one of the effects of late stage capitalism in a first world country! Any suggestion other than move from a capitalist society is like treating cancer with rubbing alcohol!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (21 children)

Okay. In detail, how do you manage complex, shifting supply chains without some kind of market?

Like, I'm also team eat the rich, but nobody can ever answer this.

[–] rdca 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Market has always existed before capitalism! We are lead to believe the market would exist if not in a capitalist society! I just recently joined the mailing list from https://marxist.ca/ to know more! I’m not part of the group but reading the resources can guide you to overcome the myths and lies about socialism and communism!

There isn’t any easy fix to something complex as our current socioeconomic arrangement, however we should point out the root cause of our current affairs is due to the nature of capitalism!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not about to join a mailing list, but I don't like using the term "capitalism" for this exact reason. Depending on exact definition I could be pro or anti capitalism, or anywhere in between.

[–] rdca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So you don’t like the term capitalism, what is the synonym you use instead?

Do you think our society doesn’t live under the capitalism system or the fact the problem is the capitalism it doesn’t go well with you?

By the way I’m not judging you by any means, I just want to understand your point of view!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Sometimes people mean "markets" when they say capitalism. Sometimes they mean the existence of really high wealth inequality. Sometimes they're using Marx's original definition about the means of production.

In the first case, I see no alternatives, and so am for it. In the second case, I'm against it. The third requires more discussion about how ownership should be structured, and which things count as means of production before I can even decide. Using a term that could be any of them just leads to confusion.

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